Personal firearms that have never had a malfunction

[ilbob]

Virtually all the malfunctions I have experienced have been either ammunition related or magazine related. I count unusually dirty ammunition gumming up the works as ammunition related.

The sole exceptions that I can recall were on a Ruger MKII that has some kind of issue with the disconnector not being reset. I need to get that fixed.

 

[Warp]

Virtually all the malfunctions I have experienced have been either ammunition related or magazine related. I count unusually dirty ammunition gumming up the works as ammunition related.

The sole exceptions that I can recall were on a Ruger MKII that has some kind of issue with the disconnector not being reset. I need to get that fixed.

That is where people differ. I would not accept a firearm that malfunctioned because the ammo was dirty. Then again all of my firearms, save for the .22lr trainers, may serve self defense duty. If I had a tight competition only gun or similar that would be different.

 

[Schwing]

Barring reloads that were too light to cycle the action, I have very few semi autos that have not experienced at least 1 failure. My 92fs and my Ruger LC9s. The 92 has a huge round count. I lost track after 20k. The lc9s is around 1k.

Now, if you want to get into revolvers and lever actions... I have never experienced a failure of any kind with any of them

It does seem like others have better luck. I have had FTFS with guns that just didn't like certain brands of factory ammo. I have had trigger springs fail. I have even had a magazine release spring break causing FTFs because the magazine wasn't seating all of the way.

It is one of the reasons I almost always have an lcr in my pocket regardless of whatever else I am carrying.

 

[herrwalther]

I think Janes Yeager nailed it in one of his videos when he said if you are carrying a gun that has never malfunctioned you aren't training hard enough.

James Yeager is also an idiot who got his carry license revoked (and reinstated? not sure) for threatening people on the internet. Doesn't make him an expert on firearms.

It is easy to simulate malfunction drills. Load a dud round into some magazines and mix them up at the range. I do it all the time.

 

[Warp]

James Yeager is also an idiot who got his carry license revoked (and reinstated? not sure) for threatening people on the internet. Doesn't make him an expert on firearms.

It is easy to simulate malfunction drills. Load a dud round into some magazines and mix them up at the range. I do it all the time.

I believe his 'school' is also where students' were told to put their loaded pistols on the ground and step on them "to prove a point", and when the instructor did the same a round negligently discharged and hit a student's parked vehicle.

http://soldiersystems.net/2016/03/0...as-negligent-discharge-into-students-vehicle/

 

[stchman]

I'm finding some of this stuff virtually impossible to believe. There is now way that someone has shot over 30K rounds in a gun and not ever encountered a dud. This is with .22LR as well? I call shenanigans. I've had ammo that I have ejected and the primer had been struck firmly and it didn't go off. After I put the round back in and the primer was struck again, the round went off. According to the OP the gun is disqualified. Pretty much every 1911 is disqualified too.

 

[Warp]

I'm finding some of this stuff virtually impossible to believe. There is now way that someone has shot over 30K rounds in a gun and not ever encountered a dud. This is with .22LR as well? I call shenanigans. I've had ammo that I have ejected and the primer had been struck firmly and it didn't go off. After I put the round back in and the primer was struck again, the round went off. According to the OP the gun is disqualified. Pretty much every 1911 is disqualified too.

The only post I recall mentioning 30k rounds used that number to say that if you shoot a lot you will eventually have a malfunction from something, and I'm pretty sure that poster said he had malfunctions from well before hitting 30k

 

[FROGO207]

Well IF you clean, lube, and replace springs/buffers on a tuned up .22 on a regular schedule AND buy quality ammo to begin with, your pistol will behave reliably for you. When you could buy 550 round WIN/FED bulk packs for $10 or so at WM I was buying cases of the SK Auto Match Pistol and various ELEY target ammo cost $5+ per 50. I would call THAT good quality ammo.

Anyone that shoots a pile of ammo and just drips some oil into their firearm every so often is asking for it to revolt IMHO. I was never a fan of having a break in period to end up with a reliable firearm after a fashion. It should work as designed right out of the box I believe. I always take a new to me firearm apart and inspect/clean/polish as needed BEFORE I shoot a single shot. I am of the opinion that this has helped me reign in most "issues" at the start. YMMV

 

[ACP]

Going on about 20 years with my Bushmaster XM-15 E2S Patrolman's carbine, no issues.

My Mossberg 590A1 is about 10 years old, no issues.

All my S&W revolvers have been flawless -- 642, 65, 686, all about a decade old.

My Browning Hi Power is only about 3 years old but it has been completely reliable.

 

[Warp]

Going on about 20 years with my Bushmaster XM-15 E2S Patrolman's carbine, no issues.

My Mossberg 590A1 is about 10 years old, no issues.

All my S&W revolvers have been flawless -- 642, 65, 686, all about a decade old.

My Browning Hi Power is only about 3 years old but it has been completely reliable.

I too have a gun I acquired 10 years ago that has had zero issues or malfunctions.

Of course, I haven't shot a single round through it.

 

[JohnBiltz]

What I am seeing is a lot of people who have round counts of a thousand or less talking about how reliable their fire arms are. A lot of these posts tout they would not have a gun that had failed. Revolvers with high numbers that have been reliable. And people with counts above ten thousand saying they have had failures and for the most part saying if you shoot a gun a lot it will fail. All this seems pretty reasonable and goes along with military tests. I will also say, a lot of you guys need to get out and shoot more if you consider three or four hundred rounds a lot. That is not enough to break it in much less break it. I'm also much more likely to believe the people who shoot a lot.

 

[susieqz]

you know, when i say my 22/45 doesn't malfunction with pricey ammo, that's after a break in period.
out of the box, it would not cycle SV. after 500 rounds of HV, it would.
now that's all it gets because SV gives me tightest groups.
i simply have never had a malfunction using wolf.
i think this idea that 22lr is not reliable applies only to bulk, or possibly to HV..
of course, i replaced lots of inferior ruger parts to make it nice.

 

[Warp]

Rimfire like .22lr is less reliable than centerfire, all else equal, but yes, bulk .22lr is terribly inconsistent and unreliable. Shooting CCI SV or Mini Mags, or Wolf or Eley or Lapua or SK...definitely a significant difference. My 10/22 has been outstanding on SV, Mini Mags, and M/T or M/E

 

[Wishoot]

So far, my failure-free guns include:

- All of my shotguns (pumps/autos/OU's)
- SKS (unmodified)
- All of my lever action rifles including a Henry 22lr.
- AR15 (Only about 1000 rounds through it though)
- All of my revolvers
- Glock 19 Gen4

 

[Warp]

So far, my failure-free guns include:

- All of my shotguns (pumps/autos/OU's)
- SKS (unmodified)
- All of my lever action rifles including a Henry 22lr.
- AR15 (Only about 1000 rounds through it though)
- All of my revolvers
- Glock 19 Gen4

Approximately how many rounds in those others?

 

[il_10]

I've got more than a few that don't get shot enough to count, but two come to mind that get shot frequently, and have been absolutely reliable over many thousands of rounds.

a WASR-10, and a ~1911 1903 colt pocket hammerless.

 

[sawdeanz]

That's a tough one, I have a couple but I don't think I've shot them enough. Probably about 1000 rds through my colt commando. I thought my hi-power was doing great till I used it in a match, which I attributed to sand in the mag. I had a cz p07 that I would count because the only malfunctions were clearly out of spec ammo. There are other guns that I never had a malfunction with but others have. My vz2008 for example has been great with me (despite having a bent piston it never stopped shooting) but less experienced shooters have managed to jam it plenty from wrong mag placement to manipulating the bolt improperly.

 

[Wishoot]

Approximately how many rounds in those others?

Well over a thousand. I don't keep a record though. Sorry.

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[azrocks]

Walther PPS M2: hasn't malfunctioned once in approximately 1000 rounds. Great little pistol excepting the nasty trigger.

 

[ACP]

Sorry Warp -- I'll estimate about 7,000 rounds through the 642s over a decade, about 600 through the Model 65, and and about 3,000 through the 686.

 

[coloradokevin]

I have a Glock 37 with more than 10,000 rounds through it without a single mechanical failure. I did have some user error issues with it at one point... the model came with a slightly elevated slide stop, and in rapid fire shooting (like an IPSC match) I would sometimes find that I drove the slide stop up with my thumb, causing the slide to lock back. This wasn't really an issue with the gun as much as it was an issue with my own grip in certain conditions. I switched that slide stop out with the more commonly used (nearly flush) type that all of my other Glocks have, and it has been trouble-free otherwise.

 

[LiveLife]

Various Glocks through several hundred thousand rounds (mostly reloads) - Models 17/19/26 and 22/23/27 (Used two G22s for match shooting and often went two to three 1000+ round practice sessions without cleaning).

Sig 1911 TacPac (railed XO) around 10,000 rounds. Even with tight factory match barrel, feeds SWC reloads reliably from factory/CMC/WC 47D magazines and "slows down" after 300-500+ rounds from fouling build up (a quick cleaning solves the issue).

M&P40/45 around 10,000+ rounds. Feeds everything.

Taurus PT145 (SA/DA trigger model) around 10,000 rounds. Feeds EVERYTHING, even reject SWC reloads that won't pass tight Sig 1911 chamber.

Friend's RIA 1911 Tactical around 7,000 rounds. With generous tapered chamber, keeps feeding and shooting even when dirty after 500+ rounds.

 

[herrwalther]

I'm finding some of this stuff virtually impossible to believe. There is now way that someone has shot over 30K rounds in a gun and not ever encountered a dud. This is with .22LR as well? I call shenanigans. I've had ammo that I have ejected and the primer had been struck firmly and it didn't go off. After I put the round back in and the primer was struck again, the round went off. According to the OP the gun is disqualified. Pretty much every 1911 is disqualified too.

Read the original post. Discounting ammo related failures such as bad primers/powder or a magazine fault.

 

[Warp]

Read the original post. Discounting ammo related failures such as bad primers/powder or a magazine fault.

I'm pretty sure the point of the OP was that it didn't matter why it failed. Either it has never had a failure, or it has. Shifting blame to the ammo or the magazine (the magazine is a part of the gun...) doesn't excuse the malfunction for purposes of this thread.

 

[jr_watkins]

Mossberg 500 12 ga
Ruger Redhawk (44 mag)
Ruger new model Blackhawk (357)
Ruger new model Single Six (22/22mag)
Ruger P89
Ruger LC9s (only about 500 rounds shot so far though)
Beretta 92FS
Remington 700 (30-06)
Norinco MAK47
Glock 27

The above have all been fired extensively, but I don't keep a round count. The LC9s pro is by far the least shot to date and only because it is the newest.

Any of my semi-auto 22LR rifles or pistols have not fared as well, nor has a Glock 22, Remington 870 (16ga) or oddly a Ruger SP101 (357). None are jam-o-matics, but have had the occasional failure.