Pet Peeves, Part 2: Baby Talk

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Jim Watson said:
A "Nork" is a Norinco Communist Chinese ripoff copy of a Colt 1911A1, very popular with cheapskates and Canadians.

someone doesnt like norks? or norinco's?...

one of the more true 1911's out there than all the "tactical" ones...

who cares if they are cheap, not the chinese's fault that American gun manufacters cant figure out how to make a cheap reliable 1911...like the old ones..

Chad
 
I'm with ya as far as "clip vs. magazine" and "bullet vs. cartridge or round" because that is a matter of being exact and correct.

"Revo" sounds funny to me, and I suppose I could do without it, but "Auto" is perfectly acceptable to me, and isn't it sorta the same concept?

"Bushy" does sound funny, but for a completely different reason. But we do call a Chevrolet a "Chevy" so I'm not gonna get too worked up about it.

I believe "Deagle" is hated mainly because the people who most often use the term have a very limited knowledge about real firearms, but behave as if they were highly trained experts simply because they have used the weapon to good effect in a video game. IOW, the term "Deagle" is associated with arrogance.
 
ahhh... I love shotties and bullets inside the clip of my glockie

I also hate people who trip out on technicalities

deagle that
 
CombatArmsUSAF said:
Why have we adapted a word (Shottie) that was initially started by the R&B and cRAP culture?

Okay, hmmm....

So, it's silly and immature to use the word "shottie" as the dimunitive of shotgun, but it's perfectly acceptable to use the term "cRap" to deride an entire genre of popular music?

"Shottie" might sound slightly silly to some people, but using insults like "cRap" just helps confirm anti-gunner stereotypes.

-MV (Combat Arms, USMC)
 
As long as they are gun enthusiaists, I don't get too wound up about "magazine or clip", remmies, winnies, or roscoes. What I find more irritating are so called "experts" that have an opinion about everything. If you don't have what they have or what you have isn't as good as what they have, can cause me to bite down on my lip sometimes hard enough to bleed. Biggest kick that I got was at the local gun club with a friend and co-worker. This fellow is a very good shooter, weapons trainer, and former NG armorer. A guy comes up to us as we were uncasing our Glocks. He resembled Jesse Ventura. He starts off by stating he's a deputy sheriff for the county where our gun club was located, weapons trainer, etc. He has tried brand x,y, & z for dept. trials and brand x was the only type of gun that he couldn't break yada,yada,yada. He then asks my buddy if he would like some advice before we started shooting. My friend being polite said sure, so the guy proceeds to giving him pointers on shooting the Glock. My friend thanks him and we begin target shooting at 15 yards. The guy stood right behind watching us. My buddy shoots a nice ten round group about the size of an Einsenhower dollar piece with his Glock 21. The deputy didn't say another word and went back to his shooting lane and fiddled with his black powder revolver until we left.
 
You guys, (and gals) have no idea.. Untill I began "lurking" here long ago, ( and then when I did sign up, had a diff screen name,) I had never even heard the term "shottie".

Where I grew up, in the NW tip of PA (called North East.. go figure), these are the terms I grew up with:

.45 or .44 ment a SA revolver. Colt, Ruger, or some other copy. As in, "I wupped out my .45 and had at."

Automatics, be it a handgun, rifle, or shotgun were looked down on, and "Not to be trusted" Mention of using a "automatic" was always followed by a shaking of the head, a short laugh, and either "He's lucky he hit anything with that", or "An autoloader? how fast does he think he needs to miss?"

If someone said "I used my revolver" (pronounced REvolver) it was understood that they ment a DA revolver. This term was interchangeable with "My Thuty-eight" (meaning .38 SP, OR .38 S&W, or .38-40), or sometimes "My Thuty-two, (And THAT could lead to confusion, as many I knew had 32-20 SA revolvers, VS .32 S&W REvolvers,... you had to know the man, (or woman) then you would know the gun.)

As for shotguns, there were "Scatterguns", (ALL side-by-side shotguns), "Pump guns", (ALL pump shotguns, 20, 16, or 12 GA), and "Them autoloaders".
"Shotgun" alone, ment a single barrel, or a bolt-action, again you had to know the man (or woman) to know what they were talking about.

Now, so you understand, from the time I was 8 or so, I "hung out" with all the older folk within about 5-6 miles of where I lived. I don't think a single one of them could step outside to "crack-off" a few rounds without me being there within a few minutes. I would show up, and ask what kind of gun it was, how it worked, and why they used it, for whatever they used it for. Of course, I asked to shoot it, and then I always asked if I could clean it. At the ripe old age of 11, I accended to the "Order of the M1 Thumb" :eek: , and this is after much work learning to handle the .30-40 Kraig, 7.92 Mauser, 7.5 Swiss, and the 6.5 Carcano. ( Not in that order)

It may sometimes be a bit irratating to hear incorrect wording, or bad termonology, but you must also regard where and how the terms were picked up. It never mattered to me when shooting an old issue 1911, that one of those old gents called it a "mag", and another called it a "clip". I was just dang happy to be allowed to try it out.
 
I'm willing to cut the younger people some slack. Sure is hard to figure out what they're talking about sometimes though.

When talking technical details it's pretty much mandatory to use correct terminology if you really want to be understood. I get the feeling some people don't know the difference between an extractor and an ejector. This is like someone who drives a car and doesn't know how to check the oil.

PS - I'm getting a new boomstick next month :evil:
 
GunnySkox said:
I love my shottie. I call him Mister Snuggle Shottiewuffles, and I refuse to let all you mean people hurt Mister Snuggle Shottiewuffles' feelings.

:D
~GnSx
:ROTFL:
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you say shottie i say shotty.favorite broke back mountain line;

"i dont know how im gonna quit you"

pet peave when i let it;gun writers using the term"fodder"to describe ammo. dont let it much.
 
My problem with insider jargon is that much of it is too "insider". It's often some obscure reference to some micro-cultural joke that the general gun using community isn't even aware of. Since the advent of internet boards and forums obscure references come slithering out of cliques and obscure clear communication like jive from years ago.

Sure "mag" for magazine is easy enough to get the meaning of, but "Nork"? I'd rather be understood than seem "cool".;)
 
PET PEEVES:

Grammar police

Forum monitors

Putting down other's firearms

Phoney experts

Geographic snobbery

Ford-Dodge-Chevrolet arguements

One brand wonders

Cell phones

Kitten stompers

Geezer bashers

Me too's

:rolleyes:
 
wundudnee said:
PET PEEVES:

Grammar police

Forum monitors

Putting down other's firearms

Phoney experts

Geographic snobbery

Ford-Dodge-Chevrolet arguements

One brand wonders

Cell phones

Kitten stompers

Geezer bashers

Me too's

:rolleyes:


Me too. :evil:

Tex
 
My daugther gets unnerved by confused "single-action pistol" owners

It's funny to watch her as she rolls her eyes, watching a television show, and retorts, "That's a revolver...a reeevooooolveeeeeeer!" She usually ends it with, "I'm only 11, and I know the difference!"

:D

Doc2005
 
Speaking of pet peaves...

WHY do I always get someone assuming that, because the word "Rose" is part of my handle here, I'm female? THAT has to be the most irritating thing I've run into yet!

Newsflash: despite the name, and wearing a kilt, my wife assures me that I AM still male!

Sorry... had to get that of my chest...
 
gun writers using the term"fodder"to describe ammo

Nope. "fodder" be hoo gimme da fust gun. .22 Stevens from Sears&Roebuck. Nobody ever called it a "Stevie". Until now.

Now I got a Mossie racker shottie to go with the Winnie Grand. The Winnie Grand holds 8 bullets in the enbloc mag. I have other names for the Mossie racker shottie, especially after shooting 12ga 3" slugs, but those names are not for Art's gramma's eyes or ears. The Remmie 03A3 shoots the same bullits as the Winnie, it just kicks more.

For a 1911 I got a Argie (sistema). Nice gun, but nobody will ever name a malt liquor "Colt 11.35 mm". Then there's the Bulgie Mackie, funny little commie pistol that holds 9x18 bullits in the clip.


The first time I noticed the word "shottie" was in a post that had a picture of Sean Penn on a little boat filled with his entourage, going on some kind of rescue mission in New Orleans. Penn was standing like Washington crossing the Delaware. Cradling a shotgun. So now when I hear "shottie", I think "wacko".

Regards.
 
Jim Watson said:
It just sounds childish to me.

Jim, I think you answered your own question about "baby talk" . Just consider the source. Probably about 15 or 16 and trying to sound adult and "cool".

I actually find it useful in who to sort out and ignore in most posts.
If a "poster" is actually trying to gain some knowledge or insight, I will be one of the first to try to help. On the other hand, if they're trying to impress their little buddies (and others) with how knowledgeable and mature they are, I just pass on.

I can't remember (a sure sign that I'm an old fart :D ) which board I had posted a list of "key words" that I use to filter out certain threads. Things like: "vs", "best", "scenario", "what if", etc. If I see them in a title, I just move on 'cause I know I'm not going to be interested.

Remindes me of a little kid, probably 4 or 5, that we used to have in our neighborhood. He would walk up to you and state "My name is Johnny and I'm the toughest kid in town" and then he wouild spit. Johnny's problem was that his "spitter" wasn't very well developed and most of it would end up on his chin and shirt front.
All I can say to some of these posters is "Careful, you're starting to dribble."

Dean
 
wundudnee said:
PET PEEVES:

Grammar police

Forum monitors

Putting down other's firearms

Phoney experts

Geographic snobbery

Ford-Dodge-Chevrolet arguements

One brand wonders

Cell phones

Kitten stompers

Geezer bashers

Me too's

:rolleyes:

Yo tambien. :rolleyes:
 
Canuck-IL said:
Yeah, that would be a cutesy, insulting comment that wasn't necessary.
/B
Norincos can be imported into Canada, we cant get'em anymore thanks to one of Clinton's bans. They were pretty decent base guns for customizing, from what I read.

Kharn
 
I don't have much in the way of pet peeves. That said, it bothers me a bit when I (try to) read posts from someone who obviously spent a lot of time putting some good thoughts together, but he can't spell or doesn't know the difference between their, there and they're; to, too and two; or lose and loose. Sometimes I find myself thinking, "What is this guy trying to say?", as I attempt to decipher the text. If it's important enough to write and post, it's important enough to proof read.

As for magazine vs clip and bullet vs cartridge that's just an incorrect use of terms I can deal with. It may or may not indicate an ignorance on the part of the writer that I will put into context.

I use "revo" as an abbreviation for revolver, not trying to be cute. "Shottie" doesn't save any typing so it makes no sense to me; SG makes sense, as does 870, O/U or SxS, but "shottie" doesn't help.
 
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As stated by a few people before me, misusing terms (clip versus mag for example) makes me want to correct people. Using cutesy names for things usually gets one of these :)rolleyes: ) from me.

Do I think it's a little juvenile, yes, but hey, the reality of the situation here is that most of the items we talk about buying are just toys for adults anyway. The saying that the only difference between men and and boys is the price of their toys definitely applies to the gun culture. This kind of makes them toys, even if referring to them as such makes me throw up a little in my mouth.

BTW- I hate real babytalk too. When people come up to my 17 month old son and start talking in that mealy-mouthed, sing-song tone, I have to restrain myself from either *****slapping them or telling them to get a diaper of their own if they're going to talk like a baby. My son usually runs from people who talk like that or looks at-em like :scrutiny: . Can't wait until I can teach him to ask if they have a speech impediment........lol.

W
 
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