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Petitioners lying to get signatures for outlawing private sales.

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by joeschmoe, Aug 19, 2013.

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  1. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Member

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    Just had a petitioner ask me to sign to require background checks on long guns in addition to hand guns. She explained that current law only requires local background checks for hand gun purchase but not long guns. She said the petition would require federal checks instead of local checks.
    I read her petition and it was the standard language requiring all purchases thru dealers. Nothing about long arms or local checks. This was a state ferry waiting line.
    She got lots of signatures from people who didn't read it.
     
  2. chriscw81

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    I wish i was lucky enough to have someone ask me to sign a petition like that. They'd get an earful from me.....
     
  3. hso

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    Since we don't do rants in Activism, what's the plan to deal with this?
    Who's your local 2A organization? What pro2A radio or paper is there to sic on them?
     
  4. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Member

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    I should have posted in general.
     
  5. Fryerpower

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    No, you posted in the right spot. You need to DO SOMETHING about it, not just let it go. Tape record her, if legal. Get her signatures thrown out as obtained under false pretenses. (What do I know, I'm not a lawyer.)

    Jim
     
  6. hso

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    Exactly!

    Find out who she's representing and pass that info along.
    Don't assume she's knowingly lying when we see so much ignorance, but do use that to discourage her and others interested in signing.
    Pass the word to every 2A organization in your area so they can add their voices, perhaps a petition calling for Anti groups to not mislead the public?
     
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    Which state was this in?
    ll
     
  8. silvermane_1

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    yeah what state?, is it I-594 here in WA state?
     
  9. Jim K

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    Lying to get petition signatures is about as old as petitions. Sometimes the subject of the petition is even remotely connected with what the person gathering signatures says it is.

    Jim
     
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    Washington state.
     
  11. joeschmoe

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    Yes this was WA state. Edmonds ferry terminal waiting line. She was not wearing an ID. I thought they had to wear an ID to petition in the ferry lines. She refused to give me her name.
    I'll try to record next time, but that may be a while. On the one hand I'm discouraged that so many people would sign it, but on the other hand she had to lie to get them to do it. The anti's usually fail because most of their arguments are based on lies and don't hold up to debate.

    Anyone else who uses the ferries could try to record them and get their name.

    Any ideas who we can send the video's to? I emailed SAF, but no response yet.
     
  12. joeschmoe

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    Found this:

    RCW 29A.84.250
    Violations — Corrupt practices.

    Every person is guilty of a gross misdemeanor who:


    (4) Interferes with or attempts to interfere with the right of any voter to sign or not to sign an initiative or referendum petition or with the right to vote for or against an initiative or referendum measure by threats, intimidation, or any other corrupt means or practice

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=29A.84.250
     
  13. col_temp

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    should be able to report them to the elections commission as well.
    Not that it is likely to get very far with the hard left we have here in Washington.
    thanks for the heads up!
     
  14. ilbob

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    Why not ask her if she would be willing to be interviewed for your Youtube channel and then politely ask her some leading questions and let her lie directly to the camera. Let her do the dirty work of discrediting herself.

    Just be polite and friendly and let her destroy herself.
     
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