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[Full Metal Jacket]

How many times do we have to tell people to stop shooting others reloads in their Glock's (or any other weapon)? Glock should put a warning on the box...

yep. ultramax is reloaded. plenty of folks shoot reloads in their glocks, and press their luck doing so. their line of thinking is "well it hasn't blown up yet"....

There's nothing wrong with reloads in the Glock. The problem is with junky reloads, regardless of who loaded ("remanufactured") them.

shooting any kind of weakened brass through an autopistol with generous chamber specs and diminished case support is never a good idea.

 

[jon_in_wv]

I agree with some of the above posters. This is a case head seperation, NOT a kaboom. If the weapon is intact then it did its job perfectly.

 

[KurtC]

The extractor marks on the rim indicate that the case has been reloaded a good number of times. However, the primer does not look like it was overcharged. The case expansion is pretty far forward, and I would not be suprised if it fired out of battery. I would be very curious to know how this particular pistol fairs in the future, regardless of the type of ammunition used.

 

[greyeyezz]

Shoot junk ammo out of your Hi-point. If you can afford a Glock, Sig, HK then you can afford decent range ammo.

 

[Squidbert]

I think I'd feel safer shooting "junk" ammo through my Sig or M&P versus a Hi-Point...

On another note - although that casing looks horribly haggard, does anyone else think things may have went a little more smoothly had the barrel's chamber been fully supported?

 

[Bobandshawn]

There's nothing wrong with reloads in the Glock. The problem is with junky reloads, regardless of who loaded ("remanufactured") them.

I know I don't have many posts on this particular forum...but why would a moderator directly contradict the manufacturer of a specific weapon. It has been well established that Glock says "NO" to reloads???

~Bob

 

[FLAvalanche]

I know I don't have many posts on this particular forum...but why would a moderator directly contradict the manufacturer of a specific weapon. It has been well established that Glock says "NO" to reloads???

Because there is a big difference between a firearm simply not working with reloads and a company saying not to do it because their lawyers tell them to in order to cover their butts when people stuff doublecharged reloads into them and expect Glock to pay for their doctor bills.

 

[Zak Smith]

I know I don't have many posts on this particular forum...but why would a moderator directly contradict the manufacturer of a specific weapon. It has been well established that Glock says "NO" to reloads???

You're going to be hard pressed to find a firearms manufacturer that sanctions, let alone endorses, the use of other than commercially-loaded ammunition in their guns for the reasons of liability and warranty.*

There is nothing physically different between a properly loaded round made by a private individual and a round from a major ammo manufacturing company. It is a bad idea to shoot a lot of unjacketed lead through a a Glock polygonal barrel, but that is a separate issue. Certainly there is a set of established procedures and best practices for loading or reloading that should be followed, and it's not an activity for absentminded, reckless, or non-detail-oriented people.

However, people who follow the former and do not fall under the latter have shot millions of reloads in Glocks and the experience bears out the first sentence of my second paragraph.


* here's two more that don't:

http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/Cms...PERATORS MANUAL 220 226 229 239 REV 01 LR.pdf

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...eRj-sY&sig=AHIEtbQ10ZDMjFmKXpvb4rVKQBJFzzbEvg

 

[Fastcast]

shooting any kind of weakened brass through an autopistol with generous chamber specs and diminished case support is never a good idea.

That has a lot to do with this Glock phenomenon and I'm glad you mentioned it. You saved me a bit of typing. ....... Giving up strength for some perceived, extra reliability.

Many of other brands (Sig, Colt, CZ, Beretta, Springfield, etc) shoot these half assed reloads and don't commonly explode to pieces.

 

[sonier]

Thats why I dont want a glock, even if it survived the kabooms as you called it. That should not have had happened in the first place. Untill glock fixes there issues with reloaded ammunition im not ever going to get a glock and will always advocate against it.

 

[Ledgehammer]

Why shoot reloads when you can get federal fmj at walmart for 9.47 a box. That's pretty darn cheap.

 

[Roswell_Kid]

Zerodefect - I never shoot reloads that I didn't load myself.

LawOfThirds - There's a reason you shouldn't trust other people's reloads.

Zak Smith - The problem is with junky reloads, regardless of who loaded ("remanufactured") them.

+1. 99% of the time, buying someone else´s attempt at economizing anything is a bad idea. In this case of ammunition, it can involve injury to the user or worse yet a bystander. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

 

[sonier]

There may be 9mm for 10 bucks a box at walmart, but that dosnt mean anything to me. I reload because I was shooting ammo when you couldnt find any on the wallmart shelves. Relaoding ensures me to be able to stockpile ANY type of ammunition universalize componets with other calibers, make match grade ammunition which that wal mart crap is not. ALSO With me not shopping at walmart, im not supporting a corporation that dosnt give a rats ass about "We the people"

 

[AK103K]

Untill glock fixes there issues with reloaded ammunition im not ever going to get a glock and will always advocate against it.

I shoot 3-500 rounds a week of my reloads out of my Glocks. Have for years. Never had any issues with them.

What is this problem you speak of?

ALSO With me not shopping at walmart, im not supporting a corporation that dosnt give a rats ass about "We the people"

Oh, I dont know. They are still pretty much the cheapest out there for 9mm. Hows that not supporting us? Would you prefer they overcharge us, like some shops do, and some of them, by selling ammo they bought at Walmart at a higher price no less?

 

[sonier]

Even if wallmart is 10 bucks a box, Id much rather pay 15 bucks at a private owned gunshop, than have wallmart put them out of buisness.

 

[Ledgehammer]

Meh - trust me, I spend plenty of money in my local shop. Buying my range ammo from walmart isn't going to put anybody out of business lol - the profit margin is so slim on range ammo it's a wonder the lgs even stocks it anymore.

Now if walmart start selling glock 23's for $350. Then I'd get worried.

 

[DustyVermonter]

Anybody else find sonier's sig line quite humerous givin the nature of this discussion.

Sonier advocating against Glock is inadvertantly helping keep Glock's prices down just about as much as buying range ammo at wally world is putting LGS's out of business.

I'd say out of the millions of Glock in world wide circulation probably less than a tenth of one percent have had issues with their functionality(not ergos and cosmetic appearance).


Name me 1 other manufaturer than can........

 

[sonier]

The fact that glocks cant handle most reloads, while most others can is enough for me

 

[Zak Smith]

The fact that glocks cant handle most reloads, while most others can is enough for me

False.

Guess, what the manual for your Colt Python says the following:

CAUTION USE ONLY ORIGINAL HIGH QUALITY COMMERCIALLY MANUFACTURED AMMUNITION IN GOOD CONDITION

http://gunshowonthenet.com/Gun_Manuals/Colt_Python.pdf

It's right on the second page of that PDF.

So you might want to rethink your whole argument a little bit.

 

[sonier]

Truth is theres more glock kabooms than python kabooms lol

 

[Zak Smith]

Can we assume since you changed the subject from your statement that "fact that glocks cant handle most reloads, while most others can" to something different that you're giving up that point and concede?

Truth is theres more glock kabooms than python kabooms lol

Since at least 10x Glocks have been made than Pythons and comparing raw numbers would be meaningless, you must have data that reflects the total circulation of both types of handguns and the total number of "kabooms."

 

[Dulvarian]

I think I have to agree with Zak.

 

[REAPER4206969]

Many of other brands (Sig, Colt, CZ, Beretta, Springfield, etc) shoot these half assed reloads and don't commonly explode to pieces.

Yes they do. Put this ammo in any firearm and the results will be similar.

 

[DustyVermonter]

It is common knowledge that Glocks are pure trash(sarcasm).

 

[LiveLife]

I think in keeping with THR principles, this thread should focus more on not shooting questionable reloads regardless of what the box says - Who knows, somebody "may" have put their junky reloads in the box and claimed it was "remanufactured" and sell them to someone unsuspecting.

I reload my own and get suspicious of other reloads that are out of spec and looks like the OP picture - I mean look at the case surface and rim, did the reloader even tumble the brass? My cases get tossed long before they even look like that.

Be safe.