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Photos of our four legged hunting friends

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by Fernando, Aug 27, 2010.

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  1. Fernando

    Fernando Member

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    Don’t know if someone has opened a similar thread here before, hope not. I’m sure that many of you have a dog as a companion in hunting days. Don’t matter if he is ugly, short, weird or whatever: it’s your dog, your friend. I have one too, his name is Thor. What he lacks in brains, he has in hair. But I don’t mind.

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    I think that it would be funny if everybody placed here some pics of their dog or dogs. Place as many as you want, because I bet your dog has many faces, lol

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    I will keep on posting photos of mine, because I have lots of them. Some normal:

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    And some quite stupid, lolol::

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    Ps: Someone sent me a message with some questions about pics but when I tried to respond the site said that that user didn’t want to receive messages. I send the answer to a gmail address, started with an “e” and ended with a “6”. If you are reading this, check your mail’s trash or enable the message receiver in THR, or else I don’t know how I can answer you.
     
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  2. courtgreene

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    my dog's not allowed to hunt, which he hates being a beagle and all, but he's the best vikings fan the world has ever seen. looks awesome in both his home and away jerseys. I am really just posting to say "holy crap fernando you're a great photographer." that's the stuff remington, winchester, etc... would gladly pay good money for when they put out catalogs and other publications.
    And finally, I don't know your dogs name, but he or she looks good. I'd still take Pepper (mine) over anyone's dog any day though.

    ETA: I guess when you look at the pictures you can see that he does "hunt" for some things. In the other pic, my wife decided to imitate him.
     

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  3. DIM

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    Fernando, you must have some good lenses on your camera, probably using nikon or cannon SLR.
    here is my puppy 3 years ago...

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  4. Fernando

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    Quote “I don't know your dogs name, but he or she”

    It’s a He, and his name is Thor. But he responds by any name if you have food on your hands, lolol.

    Beagles are awesome for tracking and pursuing foxes and wounded animals like boars. Britain’s and French hunters love them. They are not aggressive dogs but they are very professional at what they do.

    DIM, I bet that three years ago the girls that walked by you in the park all stopped to make conversation, lol. Puppys are the best bait, irresistible lol ;)

    Our hunting dogs are forced to carry a microchip chip beneath the skin, so they can be always identified if lost. Are you obligated to insert a microchip in your dogs too?

    I use a canon 350D (rebel xt in the states, I think), with 8 MP. It has several years now, and canon launched several substitutes models like 400D, 450D, 500D and 550D, this last one with 18 mega pixies. Before the canon I used a 35mm z1 pentax.

    One pic from the pentax (my dog when puppy):

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    But then he grew up to be this mindless thing, lol:

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    He is very good at tracking animals, with feathers or fur.

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    Or fruits, lol

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    And after the shooting, he doesn’t waist time. Fetch, boy, fetch! Lolol

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    He doesn’t mind posing to the camera:

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    (my girlfriend on the right:
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    He clearly likes her lol

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    Well, he is a good guy, even when not hunting. Althoug he clearly tries to look more clever than he really is, ahahah

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    Dumb dog, lol

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    Will post more photos soon. Got a pile of them.
     
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  5. huntershooter

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    I have Thor's ugly sister; "Belle".
    No action shots, but she a hunting fool; upland game-quail/pheasant.
    Oh, and she is "daddy's little girl".
     

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  6. DIM

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    Cannon 350D is not bad, actually its great camera, my wife uses Cannon 10D, by the way she asked what functions do you use to get action shots and what kind of lens? Here is my grownup but still a puppy...
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  7. KodiakBeer

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    George was an 80 pound female wolf who died a few years ago. She was my deer hunting companion and pal. She packed meat and acted as bear radar. She loved kids, pulling a sled, deer liver, and beer. She's missed.

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  8. Fernando

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    Quote: I have Thor's ugly sister; "Belle".

    Well, she sure looks pretty to me! Especially if I compare her photo with some of Thor’s. This is how he really looks, eheheh:

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    Kodiak, 16 or 17 years ago I had a dog that looked like your wolf. His name has Nilo. He was not a good hunter (seized 2 or 3 cats in his entire life) but he sure took the crap out some neighbors [​IMG]

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    DIM, about the action photos:

    To freeze action in natural environment, to freeze fast movements in photos, we need a lot of light entering the camera very fast. So, either we shoot in a very illuminated place (benefiting the direct light of the sun) or we have to use very fast lenses (lenses that allow a big aperture). To freeze things, camera has to take the picture at very high speed, and it can only do that if it receives lots of light.

    Aperture is what it usually determines the cost of a lens, and it is expressed with the letter F. Every lens on the market has the maximum aperture in its name, and it usually is engraved on the lens body. So, a canon lens with a name as “Canon EF 200mm USM IS f/2.8” has a maximum aperture of f/2.8 (the EF means the type of connection to the camera, USM is the type of motor and IS means that has image stabilization).

    A low F number means a larger aperture, and a higher F number means a smaller aperture. Exemplifying:

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    Now, to freeze action it is recommended the use of a lens with an aperture of f/2.8. And to catch a moving target we should use a zoom lens like a 70mm-300mm, so we can adjust the animal or object better in the picture as it approaches. The problem is that a lens like that can easily cost twice the camera. Most of us (me included) won’t pay that much for a single lens, so we got to compromise somewhere, lol, and we end up buying a lens with a maximum aperture of f/4. I bought a canon EF 70-300mm USM IS f/4 – 5.6 – this means that at 70mm I have an aperture of f/4, but if I extend the lens to 300mm the aperture will be f/5.6.

    So, what can we do with an aperture of f/4 if we want to freeze some action?

    1st – We try shoot in highly illuminated environments
    2nd – We increase the iso from 100 to at least 400 (increasing the iso can and will increase the grain in the picture, so we should get too greedy)

    In high iso mode and with a lot of light the camera will shoot a lot faster, so this way we can freeze motion. Most cameras have an action mode that will automatically increase the iso and choose the maximum aperture available in that particular lens. If it hasn’t, you must choose it manually.

    Prime lens (lens that are not zoom lens) usually are cheaper, even if they have a larger aperture. I bought a 50mm f/1.4 lens for half the cost of the 70-300mm, and a 100mm macro f/2.8 for less than this one too, but they don’t have zoom so I usually don’t use them for this purpose.

    Making a long story short: DIM, that canon 10D of your wife has an action mode. If you use it, it will set automatically the iso to 400 and will use the maximum aperture of your lens (probably f/3.5, if it is an 18-55mm lens). You can also control the aperture in AV mode, and the Speed in TV mode, but choose the action mode and all those things will work automatically (action mode has a green guy running). And don’t forget: shoot only in places with a lot of light and try to benefit from direct sun light on your targets.

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    In the snow:

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    Here, they are both tired, lololol:

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  9. DIM

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    Thank you Fernando, for explanation on lenses and shooting modes, I will try to do something this afternoon, its sunny and I think I can get my dog to chase ball in the backyard :) I did checked my lenses and I think I might have something that will work. It's Canon EF 50mm 1:1.8 also I have Sigma 28-135mm 1:3.8 - 5.6. In 50 mm lens aperture is fixed and it has no zoom, I thought its only good for portrait photos.
     
  10. DIM

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    OK here what I got using those lenses, hmmm is there such thing as to much lite? Here take a look:
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  11. Fernando

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    DIM, your pictures are fine but you can freeze it better. In fact, you can freeze the spit that may fall from your dog’s mouth, lol.

    Here is the info of one of your photos (info is embedded in file automatically):

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    1 - The iso was ok: 400

    2 - The lens used was probably the 50mm f/1.8, and I say “probably” because you could also have used the sigma 28-135mm positioned at 50mm.

    3 – Aperture was at f/6.7 (too small, as you will see in a minute)

    4 – The speed was 1/1000 of a second


    Now, assuming that you used the 50mm f/1.8 lens, you could have taken that same pictures at a much higher speed, avoiding all motion blur and freezing even the flies in mid air. But first let me tell you what happened (presuming you used the 50mm f/1.8 lens): the camera thought that the light was more than enough and deliberately reduced the aperture to f/6.7. If the camera had used a larger aperture, more light would come in (and faster), so the same shot could be taken at much higher speed. How much higher? Your Canon 10D can and will shoot at 1/4000 of a second, i.e. four times faster than the speed you actually used to take those photos. So, how can you shoot faster if your camera seams that don’t want to use a larger aperture? Easy:

    Instead of using the action mode (below I will tell you why in same cases this mode causes what seems to be faults), choose an AV mode (lets you choose the aperture) or TV mode (lets you choose the speed of the shutter, aka time of exposure) – these Modes are engraved in a button of you camera, for sure.

    In AV mode, you choose the aperture and the camera will adjust automatically the speed. If you choose an aperture of f/1.8 (using the 50mm lens, of course), the camera will adjust to a very high speed, probably around 1/4000 if pointed to a good illuminated spot. If you set an f/4 aperture the camera will reduce the speed to 1/1600 or less. Note: if you set it to f/1.8 and the speed number blinks, that means that the speed recommended would be too high for the camera and you have to reduce the F number to f/2 or to f/4.

    In TV mode, you choose the speed and the camera will automatically adjust the aperture. If you set the camera to shoot at 1/4000 it will probably open the aperture to its maximum (f/1.8). If the aperture number blinks, it means that you should use a slower speed because the aperture is already at its maximum.

    Now, let me tell you why sometimes the action mode doesn’t do everything automaticaly, and why in some cases camera will use other aperture than the maximum. The aperture of a lens has a direct effect on the picture quality and a direct influence in what we call depth of field (DOF). Note this:

    A larger aperture will reduce the DOF, i. e. the part of the animal or object photographed that stays focused is reduced, specially if the picture is taken at a shorter distance. If you use a f/1.8 you may get a focused nose but the rear part of the dog may appear out of focus. By the contrary, if you use a much more reduced aperture like f/8, the object and even the background may appear all in focus.

    And there are other reasons for the camera not using the maximum aperture of the lens: in some lens, larger apertures will produce softer images, without proper sharpness. The canon 50mm f/1.4, for example, in f/1.4 will not be much sharp, but if you set it to f/2 it will be.

    So, what can you do? Control the aperture or speed in that 50mm of yours in AV or TV modes, and use the max speed of the camera to freeze things in action scenes.

    To illustrate what the hell I’ve been talking, here are two pics:

    First picture was taken at f/36 and 1/13s of speed
    Second picture was taken at f/7.1 and 1/400s of speed

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    You can use speed and aperture control to make other photos beside action. Slow speed in running water can be fun:

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    But, back to the dogs:

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    DIM, I heard that your 50mm f/1.8 can be used in infrared-photography because contrary to the 50mm f/1.4 doesn’t produce a glare in the picture. I have to use the 70-300mm for IR.

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    Ps: DÎM, I think that if your dog was in Portugal you would have to install a microchip in her too, because she may looks a bit like a Doberman, eheheh. Doberman, Pit bulls and other dogs are in a government list of dangerous dogs and have to carry microchips beneath their skin (as all hunting dogs, dangerous or not).

    She looks a bit aggressive. I bet half the rabbits you catch died from heart attack, ehehehe
     
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  12. PT1911

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    Fernando, I officially hate you... well not hate so much as envy GREATLY!!!! Those pictures are incredible... I have not jumped into photography yet but imagine I will soon enough... though I have been cautioned that it is one hell of an expensive hobby. Those flowing water pictures are just awesome...

    need an apprentice? LOL
     
  13. Fernando

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    PT, the secret in photography is not to forget what your learn every single day you go out with your camera. You need a Digital SLR camera and at least a standar 18-55mm lens, yes, but today they cost together less than a gun. If you want to buy lens and other accessories little by little, you should get a camera from canon or Nikon, because they will present you with a bigger offer in every area from flashes to lenses. Once you get your camera, you can buy lens in ebay, new or used, and they probably will last forever.

    We are all apprentices, I guarantee you. Everyday we learn something, especially if we read, ask or try. If there is something that you want to know about a particularly photo or technique, you just have to ask. I’ll be glad to share the little I know.

    Photography is all about light. If we remember that, we can take much better photos without having more trouble or spending more time than we already do.

    Flowing water pictures are very easy to do. You just set your camera in a tripod (has to be stable for long exposures), use the remote or retarded shooting mode (so the camera don’t vibrate when picture is taken) and reduce the aperture to get a higher exposure time. Because more water will flow during the exposure of sensor to light, the water will look like hair.

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    Cons: Longer exposure times and reduced apertures may show the dust in the sensor (spots in the picture); if there is much light available, you may have to use a neutral density filter in front of the lens, in conjunction with the small aperture, to reduce the light that enters.

    Trust me, it’s much more difficult to freeze moving objects than to play around with water, lol

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    Now, back to my dumb dog, lol:

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  14. janobles14

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    beautiful!
     
  15. DIM

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    Fernando actually its him, just he lost his balls when he was 8 month old, wasn't my idea but they had to go... other then that he is 75% doberman and 25% rottweiler and he is very friendly, he even has cat as a friend which steals food out of his ball, by the way cat lost his balls as well. Fernando, one thing strikes me the most on your pictures are the colors, are you using photoshop of some sort to enhance images and do you use raw format or jpg?
    here is my dog saying "I'm very friendly come on play with me"
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  16. courtgreene

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    fernando, to answer your question WAY up there... nc does not require hunting dogs be chipped, but we (although we don't let pepper hunt) chose to have it done anyway because... well we love our dog, and need no more reason, if he ever gets lost we would like some kind person to check the chip and bring him home. i don't think the question was posed to me, but i answered anyway. still extremely impressed with the photos and i don't think that you really think your dog's dumb... if you did you wouldn't have so many shots of him.

    i know beagles love to hunt... what he hates is the fact that we do not let him do so.
     
  17. slabuda

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    OK Ill play....


    Meet Dicey Von Drei Hund Knight...
    She is a bird crazy German Wirehaired Pointer and my best buddy.

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  18. Fernando

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    DIM, sorry for the “she” part, eheheh. He now looks much friendlier indeed.


    About your questions

    Raw or jpg: when I bought the camera I used the raw format for one day. At the end of the day I counted more than 100 photos. Once I discovered that I had to convert all those files individually to jpg, I promised to my self that I would leave the raw format alone for the rest of my days, lol. I’m no pro to use raw, I just want to have fun with the camera, and jpeg is more than enough.

    About Photoshop: I never knew how to work with photoshop, always thought that was super complicated. But there was a problem back then: all plug-ins were made for photoshop. Plug-ins are little software programs that we can get separately but all runs on photoshop platform (we access them trough the menus). There are plug-ins made to solve specific problems on photos, like image noise (grain), illumination, etc

    For my luck, some years ago corel Photopaint, a much simpler editing software than photoshop but highly effective, started to accept all photoshop plug-ins. Problem solved! I never had to learn how to work with photoshop and I hope I never do.

    Now, beside plug ins, why do we have to use a editing software? For some little things, some that most of us don’t know how great they are. Some examples:

    Every time we reduce a photo’s size, pixels are compressed and image becomes a little blurred. If we want to restore the original quality, we must apply a simple command called “sharp” (there is a scale, so we just have the use it to restore quality, not ruin it). Some programs, like Photopaint (corel) lets you use another command with identical functions: “unsharp mask” (don’t mind the name, it does exactly the same thing as the sharp).

    Another thing that we can do in editing software - and that is very common - is to crop the image. How we distribute thins in the picture is of the most importance if we want to get other’s attention (there are rules for composing a picture, things must not be at the center all the time). So, if we didn’t like the outcome of a picture because the object or animal is not where we like it to be, we can crop a part of the picture. Because image file still has a lot of pixels, we still have a photo and no one will probably know it’s a crop.

    Now, about the colors. I’ve been reviewing the photos I posted in this thread and 3 have color issues.

    1 - The photo with gray background, where it says “He is very good at tracking animals, with feathers or fur”: the color of the dog is natural, but the background was turned grey (by a simply dissature command).

    2 – The photo with the blue water flowing – all canon digital SLR cameras have a button that allows you to use a background tone called “tungsten”. If you press that button, a blue tone will be automatically applied to image (note: it’s irreversible in that photo). It is commonly used in night photos.

    3 – The infrared photo has altered colors, due to infrared processing (it is natural).

    Dim, all the other picture in this thread have plain normal colors. This is why some colors seem out of normal:

    - Some photos were taken in last hours of the sun, were colors are warmer (more reds, more yellows or orange)

    - To get great color we should take pictures very early or very late in the day, or in stormy days. If we always took the pictures when the sun is high, pictures will be sharp (because of the much light) but colors may tend to fade (it’s what we call hard colors) or to look very common.

    Every time you want to know something about a specific photo, please ask. I will be glad to answer.

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    Courtgreene, thanks for the chip answer. About this quote:

    “and i don't think that you really think your dog's dumb... if you did you wouldn't have so many shots of him”

    I have to get out now, because it’s lunch time here (12h.20m.), but I will explain you later, lol. And will post more photos.

    I will be back, lol
     
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    Slabuda, nice pointer! We have lots of pointers here too, but most of them have very short hair (shorter than yours). Very good dogs for small game with feather (partridges, pheasant, etc).

    Now, Courtgreen, about my dumb dog… lolol:


    When he was very small, things in the house were safe because the bast#rd couldn't move a lot, he was slow and easy to find. We always knew where he was, and what he was doing.

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    But then he grew up and things changed. First he started to chew things, and very fast he started to eat them, and I don’t mean only shoes.

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    When he was one year old, and right after he eaten a belt and a rubber boot my girlfriend said *** and asked me if he would be like that forever. I had other dogs before, so I told her that he would grow a brain before he completed 2 years. Well… he didn’t.

    He is 6 years old and if we leave a travel bag near him he will find a way to open it and to unpack and eat most things in there. He eats everything from soap to the sponge of my rifles bag. I have taken him out of several wells in hunting days because he runs around like a goat not looking forward. He auls (aauuuuuuuuu) in the middle of the night out of nothing, and he does that lauder than a wolf – he does that sh#t during the sleep. He takes fruits out of the trees. This is not normal for a 6 years old dog.

    This photos were taken when I was experimenting some wicked filter that some friends lended me. Does he look normal? lolol

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    But that doesn’t mean that I don’t like him. He is funny to be around:

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    He fetches animals when hunting:
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    And he does all that although he has a brain of a one year old poppy. Here, trying to pass as a polar bear, lol:
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    No comments :D:

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    About colors and times of the day (pictures taken in different days):

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    Mid morning (10.30 am)
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    At different times of the day, we have different tones. That’s what we call color temperature. Cold colors are bluish, and worm are reddish.


    Making friends, lol:
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  22. PT1911

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    He may be dumb, but he looks to be full of personality and, if your photos are any indication, one hell of a good dog...

    Love the "polar bear poser."


    Was there a bunny massacre soon after that picture took? lol... if only that bunny knew how many dead ancestors those jowls had carried postmortem.
     
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    Phinn doesn't actually go hunting, but if he wants to find something he can sniff it down w/o a problem.
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    22 month old 115# full blooded bloodhound.
     
  24. MattTheHat

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    Fernando, that's a damn fine dog you have there! Absolutely superb pics of the animal, too.

    I've got two Jack Russell Terriers. The older of the two simply doesn't understand her size. She literally has the heart of a lion. I've had to pull her off of a couple of labs and the largest Great Dane I've ever seen. Were it not so ridiculous, I'm sure the Great Dane would have swallowed her whole. He was BIG. I'm sure he thought it was some kind of joke, or that he was on Candid Camera. :)

    Up at the farm though, she patrols for coyotes, which we have plenty of (along with feral pigs, bob cats, mountain lions and who knows what else.) She puts on a good enough show (or loud enough, I should say) that the coyotes don't come near while she's there.


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  25. DIM

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    told you he is not aggressive dog, cat loves him specially in the winter that's a barn cat :)

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