picked up my new Mossberg 590 :)

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  1. jeremywills

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    Edited, the Mossberg is no more, Broken Extractor :(

    Edited, see my follow up post below on the misforutune I had today with it

    Picked up my new Mossberg 590 I had on layaway. Everyone that has seen it can't believe it came out of a pawnshop. Im guessing this gun was fired a handful of times at best. Its that clean. Very happy with the 250 dollars that I paid for it. The real test comes later this afternoon once I have gone out to the range and given my shoulder a nice workout. I was at the gunshow this weekend and took a good look at those Knoxx recoil reduction stocks and Im probably going to be trying to purchase one next month. I would have gotten one this weekend but no one had the mossberg ones, just the winchester and remington ones as they told me the mossy ones went fast on sat, my mistake for going on day 2 :( GRRRR

    Ill post up some pics later once I recharge the digicam batteries and provide a informal range report, not much to report though as I just plan to maybe throw a few clays up in the air and mostly will just be throwing birdshot at some paper targets, I might pick up a few slugs along the way to the range today, but I doubt it.

    One thing, the only thing wrong with this shotty is theres no bead on the end of the barrel. Im half ass considering replacing it with a tritium night sight bead on the end, what do you think of this as an option for a bead replacement. In the day time it will still provide some reference point like the bead would and at night in the dark if I had uninvited guests at 2 am it will definately be nice to know exactly where the end of the barrel is should the need arise. What other options are there? With the heat shield Im assuming rifle type sights are not a good option probably. I would think those DayGlo fiber sights are just that, for day time usage only, why the Tritium sounds more like it would work better for me.

    Reason I think a Night sight bead would work best is that this shotty was bought mainly with HD in mind but I thought if I had to, the gun could be utilized as a bird gun possibly. Or I could try at least, Im not too informed on shotties and how the different barrel lengths and chokes etc... effect the shot patterns and when and where to use different ones for different situations etc... Only other possible options are maybe a laser pointer dot or something of the like. A flashlight might be good for that 2 am situation.

    I mainly wanted a riot gun and I got it. One other thing, I see it has a Bayonet lug, as cool as a bayo would be on the end I doubt Ill be picking up one and slapping it on there, is there any other types of accessories that can be utilized with that lug? Just wanting some other options to chew on if theres any other usage for that lug. This is the one item I will definately be considering buying up a lot of crap and turning into a mean lean tacticool machine :) All of my other stuff I plan to leave as is :)
    Thanks.
    J
     
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  2. rem870

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    congrats on the 590. I also picked up my 590 in a pawnshop, but I gave $300 for it. I don't know about using it as a bird gun. The 20" barrel is unchoked, so hitting any type of fowl at range is going to be difficult at best. The barrels on 590's are different than regular 500's because of the extended magazine. It has an extra ring on it to lock it down properly with the end cap. As for the bayo lug, I don't think there are really any options other than mounting a bayonet on it. I may be wrong, but I haven't encountered anything of the sort. Good luck with your new toy:)
     
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    hahaha pics finally

    for the 56k users im being nice and just posting a link to the photobucket album


    http://photobucket.com/albums/v113/jeremywills/shotty/



    enjoy

    ok, for the informal range report, slugs kick like a biatch :) i already knew that, the 00 buck is tolerable, but the 8 shot birdshot is quite nice outta this one, did some paper target practice, didnt take long to kill that piece of paper :D also we tried our hand at hitting hand thrown clays, I need that bead or just learn how to aim or something, I cant hit them for ????, my friend however, he took to it quite well and was killing them SOB's pretty easily, damn him, he made me all irritable :fire: :fire: :) actually it was loads of fun, its amazing how fast the 100 round birshot value pack and the 2 boxes of slugs and 00 buck just disappeared :D

    He informed me of the camera after the range though grrrr :( so theres incentive for the next time :) we discovered today, btw this camera is his new xmas gift that is has a movie mode, so we intend to take some shots of lil ol me firing off those slugs, which is quite funny ill bet from a bystanders point of view, my shoulder sure dont think its funny right now :D

    That Knoxx system is a definate must and i will be adding it to my list of tacticool upgrades for this puppy. As is this 590 is a great base gun for such a project. Wow, im about as happy right now as a 12 year old :)

    I am convincing myself i need that bead, but its probably my shooting skills, actually i was just too excited and need to settle down and all of that, next time out ill probably do much better, but on the way home i had to replenish my ammo supplies, a HD gun without ammo is worthless and we kinda spent it all on the range, too damned tempting hahaha, while there i found a fiber optic hi viz replacement bead so for now thats better than nothing, thats what you see in those pics.

    BTW one last thing, thats me with my new toy in the that picture in front of my door. We used to always laugh because I have the dart board and the airsoft target on it and theres tons of holes where the darts have missed by all my friends, ok a few of those are mine as well and it does look like birdshot. Now if needbe I can add a few more :) actually lets hope not, but it looks kinda cool in that pic. Also worth mentioning is the Doom shirt Im wearing, ever since that game the shotty was an interest of mine, it was my Favorite weapon to use in the game thus the need to wear the Doom shirt my first outing. Ok, Im excited, but I dont wanna bore you folks anymore LOL :)

    Anyhow, there ya go. Cheers for now!!!
    J
     
  4. V4Vendetta

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    "That Knoxx system is a definate must and i will be adding it to my list of tacticool upgrades for this puppy"


    Which system? The SideWinder? The CopStock? I agree on both. I won't be able to get both of them & the gun & the ammo & the earplugs all at once. I'm only gonna spend $600.00 on my first time out. The gun itself has a MSRP of $528.00 That leaves the rest for ammo, earplugs, earmuffs, goggles & taxes.
     
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    im leaning heavily towards the Cop Stock most likely. I like the ability of a foldable pistol grip with recoil reduction and to be able to fold it out for a longer range shot. The regular stock or the Spec Ops stock is nice too. For my purposes, the Breachers grip as cool as it is wont be the most useful, so thats why Im leaning towards the Cop Stock. FWIW any of the stocks would be money well spent as the recoil although not too bad, is uncomfortable enough for me at least. I would like the ability to fire off rapid shots as quickly and accurately as possible. My 2 cents.
     
  6. jsr5

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    In my opinion a pistol grip stock is a poor choice on a mossy just because it makes it hard to rapidly engage or dis engage the safety since it is on top of the frame. I have a 590 and carried for a few years as a cop mine is a marine coat meaning it looks kinda stainless in appearance. For a pistol grip shotty I have a remington 870 and it is the Bomb. as for sighting opinions Id get a set of Ghost ring sights installed they are the best thing since sliced bread. they are super fast, and I have on a few occasions achieved 6" groups at a 100 yard with slugs. they arent in the way for up close speed shots In short I love them a bunch. I do wish mine was bayo capable but it aint and I realy don't know why I want it maybe just because I can.

    But I really would re-think the pistol grip Idea for the Mossy. 'and strongly reccomend the ghost ring sights.
     
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    points well taken, but i just bought it so im not about to go and buy a remmy right away, ill keep this one awhile and see how it works out
     
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    edit update on the Mossberg, its no more :( Broken Extractor :(

    Sadly the mossy is no more

    Misfortune happened today. A good friend of mine was curious about it so we went again, I cleaned it all up this morning, we headed out, threw 51 shells through it, on shell number 52 as I was pumping the gun on the upstroke chambering the shell the forearm got stuck, we could not eject the shell so i had an almost completely chambered shell jammed in there.

    GRRRR GRRRRR GRRRRR is be used instead of what I was actually saying out at the range.

    After visually looking at it for a few moments and having no other choice but to take the barrel off, we very carefully pointed the barrel out towards the range area, carefully had to unscrew the magazine cap, pulled the barrel very slowly and then after effectively unchambering the shell, we could get at it.

    I was so pissed when I saw what had happened. There is a screw that is drilled and tapped into the receiver wall that holds a curved piece of metal that pushes the shell away from the bolt face as the forearm is pulled on the downward stroke, I believe this is properly called the extractor. Im not 100 percent sure but thats most likely what it would be called. The screw that holds it in had completely worked it way loose and I could see the threads were all jacked up. Not good

    Packed it all up, came home, got a better look at it and in the receiver wall the threads were also jacked up, Im assuming the previous owner of this shotty had for whatever reason removed the screw and replaced it at an angle and cross threaded it, it was just a matter of time under recoil and racking live shells that it would have worked its way loose.

    So I made a few calls, I was told it might be a simple fix, it could be a trip to Mossy for a complete new receiver if it was jacked up beyond salvage. I dunno if they just did not want to tackle the job because it wasn't worth thier time or effort or if there is some vailidity to the statements.

    In conclusion, I decided that I would just return it to where I purchased it from. He had said within 30 days I could have the option of repair, replacement, or complete refund if I wasn't 100 percent satisified with my purchase. I opted to just return it. Im sure another Mossberg 590 or something equivalent will present itself later on.

    2 trips to the range and one bruised shoulder and honestly Im half glad its gone. This gives me more time to learn what to look for in case I run across another one. Ill ask if its ok to remove that screw next time and see if its all jacked up before hand or not.

    If I do get another shotty, I will be getting a Knoxx stock before I shoot it. Im glad all I spent additional on it was a 4 dollar sling and 20 dollar softcase that I can utilize with my other stuff. No big deal, however sadly I have 49 shells left so I might hang on to them or try and swap or just give them away at the Highroad gathering shoot Im attending in Austin next weekend.

    Thats the update for today

    My suggestion to folks is make sure that screw in the reciever is in good shape before racking/firing the gun.

    Hope it helps the next fella, is this a common thing on Mossbergs?

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    Sorry to hear this. At least you were able to get a refund. I'll have to say, that I was a bit leery, after hearing what you paid for it. To find a firearm such as this .... priced at $50 or more, below what it should be worth; would be a "red flag". I know that there is the occasional exception, however I've found that when it comes to "pawn shops".... there is usually a good reason that a weapon such as this, would be in there, to begin with .... not to mention, being priced "below value". They usually 'overprice' everything. I avoid pawn shops .... like the plague. When it comes to certain older, cheaper type guns, you can 'sometimes' find an old, "diamond-in-the-rough", if you know exactly what you're looking at. The 590 however, is a fairly new, very popular type of gun.

    The same can be said of picking up a used firearm at a gun show - buyer beware. If you'd bought it from an individual at a show, you'd be SOL. Have no idea why this particular part would have been removed, or replaced .... but apparently, it was either done by an inexperienced previous owner, or an incompetent 'smith'. I haven't heard of any problems related to this particular component (some people just like to "tinker"). It may indeed just have been a fairly 'easy fix' .... however you don't know what else may have been wrong with it. I personally, always avoid buying anything "used", if at all possible.

    In the long run, you're far better off spending the extra $'s, to buy a 'New' - never used or abused gun, than going thru the BS you just went thru .... been - there, done - that, just isn't worth the grief.

    If you were to look at any other used guns, one thing you'll want to look at, are the screws, pins, etc. You can usually tell if any of these, or other components, have been "removed, or replaced". Look carefully at the screw slots .... to see if there are any signs that they have been messed with. If it's a newer gun, and has been taken down any farther than the basic "field strip", I'd pass it up. Unless you know the person that owns the gun, and are familiar with the gun itself, it could be a potentially expensive risk.

    As far as pump SG's, I would recommend either the 590, or the 870. I wouldn't let this "lemon", turn you off to the 590, you just need to find a good one. Nothing worse than having a gun that you don't feel you can trust - especially for HD.
     
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  10. jsr5

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    Hey Mossberg will most likely make good on this with little fuss, and I doubt youll get another 590 at that price that was a very good deal. At worst you could do it yourself with a little thread reapair compund and tap and some lock tight to put it back together. if not I would likely pay $180 for it (have to check my finances) And repair it myself. Don't give up on it it's small potatoes unless it would never feel "safe" to you again. Seriously talk to Mossberg first. I'll bet they will offer to fix it for shipping cost to them and back. But if you are intrested in my offer I'd be happy to get my FFL to send you a copy to send it to. If all else fails take it back and tell them you have an offer for it. And E-mail me. Heck if it makes you feel better I would send you the money first. That's not a bad gun you got there it can be fixed. I got the stuff on the shelf to do it.
     
  11. slopemeno

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    Its the ejector. That the downside of an aluminum receiver.

    Send it back to Mossberg (call first) and I bet they take care of it. My 500 has always been pretty reliable.

    Before you put all the accessories on it, think about what its for. If I were you I'd spend that money on a shotgun school that stresses the basics. My philosophy on defensive shotguns, FWIW, stresses quick handling, and the fewest choices. If you have to roll out at 2:00 am that HD shotgun should be ready now, not collapsed. Anyway, my two cents.
     
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    I thought I had already said its already been returned and Im done with it

    anyhow, Ill just be on the look out for another one

    Thx guys

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    590's are steel recievers.

    Too bad you let it go I think you could have made good and had a great deal.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that 590's have aluminum receivers (as do the 500's).
     
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    500 & 590 are aluminum. 590A1's are steel. 590A1 is stamped on the left side of the receiver.


    Jason:cool:
     
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    redocollection1-6-06.jpg I like my 590-a1. At least it looks nice and seems to function well. Hadn't a chance to shooter yet.
     
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