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Picking up my silencer today.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by husbandofaromanian, Oct 25, 2008.

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  1. husbandofaromanian

    husbandofaromanian Member

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    After a 7 month wait due to multiple problems including my dealer going out of business and my forgeting to include $200 in the envelope to atf, I am finally getting my Gemtech .223 silencer.

    This is my 2nd silencer. My first one is a Tac-65 22lr silencer.

    My host weapon is a Bullberry G2 pistol. I chose this platform because no gas excapes in the action of a single shot like the G2.

    I feel very fortunate to be able to make acquisitions like this before the country becomes communist. We won Heller by the skin of our teeth. I am not so sure we will win future battles.

    For people not familiar with silencers or for those who say "why would anybody want one of those unless they are an assasin", my answer is "imagine taking your children target shooting and not having to worry about their hearing protection".
     
  2. Mad Magyar

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    Interesting....
    Interesting.....:rolleyes:
     
  3. Justin

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    Mad Magyar, what's with the rolling of the eyes? Frankly, anyone who takes two minutes to think about it should see the inherent utility of using a suppressor for practice and training, especially when it comes to introducing people to firearms for the first time.
     
  4. LTB15J

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    as a fellow californian i am happy to see your acquisition was successful. for years ive kinda dreamed about having one on my own AR15, but due to the laws, well, as you said the communism in this country is slowly taking our rights. no more is that more prominent than in California; where having an 'assault weapon' (evil media term) is pretty much impossible unless you want a neutered, bullet button equipped 10 round rifle.

    and getting a silencer? ha! the only way, unless of course you have an nfa class 3, is if you got the DOJ to sign off on a manufacturing license. (ha-ha)

    for those questioning the practicality of a suppressor, one might be inclined to look in his own gun cabinet before making such comments.
     
  5. MGshaggy

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    Good point. I've often found that a can is a great way to introduce a newbie to shooting. Unless you're using subsonic 223, however, I'd still recommend hearing protection for the kids - regular supersonic 223 is still going to be about as loud as an unsuppressed 22LR.
     
  6. Wanta B

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    I would love to get a couple of them...I live out in the boonies but do have a few neighbors that are still well within earshot.I do shoot on my property on my range 200m messured. However out of respect to my neighbors I only shoot when they are not home for the most part.It would be GREAT to be able to practice when ever I felt like it! :cool:Add to this that I have,as a few of my neighbors also,shot varmits in the middle of the night.It would be nice to do that without wakeing the whole area!

    Cans,not just for commandos and assasins anymore.:D

    Wanta B
     
  7. chris in va

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    :D

    For some reason I find this pretty humorous. Wish we could *all* forget something like that.
     
  8. telomerase

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    It would go a long way toward saving shooting ranges, too. No nonshooter wants a range as a neighbor, but it would help if the users would at least get their technology up to 1900 levels and quiet the place down. We don't run our horseless carriages without mufflers anymore, which makes it a little easier to live with cars.
     
  9. throdgrain

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    Oddly enough, over here for all there anti-gun BS, the authorities have no problem with moderators. In fact I dont know any one who doesnt have one.

    Wierd ol world ...
     
  10. Kind of Blued

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    Congratulations! They're fun!

    Do you mind posting a photo of the Bullberry if you have one handy? I gather that it's something like a Thompson Contender, but I haven't heard of a "Bullberry" anything.

    Or just 'splain it to me. :)

    P.S. I didn't realize that subsonic .223 loads were possible. I just did a bit of research. Interesting...
     
  11. DoubleTapDrew

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    +1 it's for The Children™
    Just as long as we don't have to put catalytic convertors on our lead accelerators. Congratulations on your new can. I think .223 or 7.62 will be my next as well. They have pretty fierce barks (especially short barrel ones) even though recoil isn't that bad so it can be intimidating to newer shooters.
     
  12. husbandofaromanian

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    Bullberry (www.bullberry.com) is a custom barrel source for TC Contenders and Encore's. I chose Bullberry for my 22lr because I wanted extreme accuracy (I can hit a 12" gong @ 300 yards 4 out of 5 times shooting Eley ammo).

    I chose SSK industries for my .223 because I wanted a faster twist rate (1-in-9) so that I can shoot heavier projectiles (ss109 62-grain).

    I chose the TC G2 Contender pistol because there is no gas leakage in a single shot like the G2. Therefor, with 22lr, it is VERY quiet.
     
  13. The Wiry Irishman

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    From a rest or unsupported? Either way, that sounds like a ton of fun.
     
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    Hey folks, there have probably been a hundred threads re: supressors but have never or seldom read them until this one. Heck, I may have asked this one before. I'll pay attention this time.
    Is the $200 fee a one-time thing?
     
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    yes

    one time for each suppressor, Tax stamp RE: Uncle Sam
     
  16. Ben Shepherd

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    The suppressor is serial numbered just like a firearm. 200 tax for that serial number.

    One company, Yankee Hill, makes a 223 supressor that screws on their special flask hider securely BY HAND. So if you have multiple AR's or 223s that are threaded for a standard flash hider, you put their flash hider on the rifles and you can put the suppressor on any one of them quickly and easily.

    Just make sure you take a COPY of the tax stamp with you anytime you take the suppressor out of the house.
     
  17. husbandofaromanian

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    Bullberry installed a nut in my forearm so that I can shoot off of a tripod. The .223 recoil is light enough that it can also be shot off of the tripod. Also, the silencer acts as a super effective brake and a super effective flash suppressor.

    Gathering a crowd. Nothing gets more attention at the range than an nfa firearm.

    I enjoy talking with anybody that will listen about my gun hobby and my silencers. It is amazing how many people's first reaction is to ask me if I am an assasin (almost always with a smile on their face). But it puts a chill down my spine when they're not smiling.
     
  18. VirgilCaine

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    I hope you mean the forearm of the weapon...;)
     
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    Why don't you just make one? As long as you have the threaded barrel. Its pretty simple really. Get a nut that fits the threads, weld, or JB Weld a washer around the nut. Find a length of tubing, thin steel, aluminum, whatever. Cut it in half. Get washers that fit the inside diameter of the tube. Drill holes in the washers, JB Weld them into the tube at every 1/4 inch or so. Weld tube half over washers, weld on washer on end of tube. Bam, silencer. Spray paint it black or whatever. The military taught us different techniques on how to make these if needed.
     
  20. MGshaggy

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    Because unless you file a form 1 and pay the $200 tax, you'd be committing a felony. Moreover, anything built as you you describe would be far less effective than a unit made by a company specializing in suppressor design, and experienced with baffle design. Since the $200 is a fixed cost regardless whether you make it or buy it, you may as well get something thats going to work well.
     
  21. husbandofaromanian

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    I am all for people making their own stuff. But me, I pay for everything. A certain gunsmith has made a lot of money from me. I prefer to pay people who really know their trade than to experiment myself.

    If you end up making your own silencer, please post pictures. That would be really fun to see.
     
  22. Hostile Amish

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    Get a nut that fits the threads, weld, or JB Weld a washer around the nut. Find a length of tubing, thin steel, aluminum, whatever. Cut it in half. Get washers that fit the inside diameter of the tube. Drill holes in the washers, JB Weld them into the tube at every 1/4 inch or so. Weld tube half over washers, weld on washer on end of tube. Bam, silencer.

    Honestly, I'd rather buy one than go to all that trouble for something that won't work as well (not to mention won't look as good).
     
  23. husbandofaromanian

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    WARNING!!! I have been told that silencers are gateway toys to other, much more expensive, nfa weapons. Such as machine guns, 20mm rifles (http://www.anzioironworks.com/20MM-TAKE-DOWN-RIFLE.htm), etc.

    To best of my knowledge there are no treatment centers for nfa addiction. Enter at your own risk.
     
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    I'm not ready to go to NFAAA (NFA-Aholics Anonymous). It's not a problem, I can stop anytime I want...really!
    It is kind of like a drug. Folks eating ramen and living in houses smaller than they could afford if it wasn't for the NFA habbit (especially MGs).
     
  25. WoofersInc

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    What? I can stop buying these things anytime I want.. I can, I can stop anytime now..

    Anyone got some spare change for a .223 suppressor. It will be my last I promise. If only I could get that .223 suppressor, then no more........:D
     
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