Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Appalachiannative, Dec 2, 2021.
Open the gun and let the hammer down and check the protrusion. Then check the questionable ammo for chamber depth.
1. Weak hammer (main) spring.
2. Short firing pin. They can erode/corrode short over time. Browning O/U lower barrels are famous for it.
3. Long chamber. (Headspace fail.)
4. Out of spec ammo would be #4, but you've used several brands, so that's highly unlikely.
Best way would be with a set of (go and no-go) 12 ga. headspace gauges. Papa G's method will at least give you an idea.
Shot shell rim thickness could be a factor, as could the configuration of the particular primers used. Here's a link to a parts diagram: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/222043140252-0-1/s-l1000.jpg I assume barrel locks up tight against the face or you would have noted that it was wobbly.
Oh yea it locks up perfectly. I did notice the rims on the Remington shells are a little thicker and look slightly tappered and the primers don't seem to be seated as deep as others. That's why I'm leaning towards light strikes from the hammer
That diagram said model 94c, 94y. My gun has model 94F stamped into it. I notice that the one in the diagram has a firing pin spring. I found no spring in mine. When I got it the retainer screw out it was really difficult to remove and covered in grime so don't think it's ever been removed. I've seen other parts diagrams for other variants but I can't find one for the 94f specially but that 94c is the only one I've seen with a firing pin spring so I don't think I'm missing spring but will have to figure out for sure
Mine doesn't have the spring because it doesn't need it. Has a rebounding hammer that does not rest on the pin. Ones with the firing pin spring do not have a retainer screw on top like mine does. I found the correct diagram for mine. I'll be ordering the mainspring possibly tomorrow but first gonna pick up a long screwdriver to get the stock off so I can have a look at the action. Thinking maybe the plunger could be warped or just all gunked up with grime from never having been stripped down and fired repeatedly since the 50's. Will post stripped down action pics for future trouble shooting info. Hope this can help others dealing with similar problems.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/94-shotgun-series/94-sav this is the set up for mine
Thank you for that info. Upon second glance it does maybe look slightly bent I'm just tickled pink to hear that it is normal for them to come out at an angle. Can't find anything on that subject
The remains of WD-40. When it evaporates this is what it leaves behind. Does a great job initially, it's main use is for Water Displacement.
That's why when you spray WD 40 in something, anything, you blow it out before you put it away.
Man I wish I had asked about an easy was to put that thing back together. Spring was so stiff that my initial efforts to replace it with the hammer and pin back in place first we're a failure. Finally I tried putting the spring and plunger in before the hammer and pin then did a lot of prying with a cheap HF pick
that got bent all to pieces in the process to line the hole in the hammer back up to replace the pin. The whole disassembly took 15 minutes followed by another 15 minutes of cleaning then 3 hours of knuckle busting paper cuts and plenty of profanity shouted at the top of my lungs to achieve re assembly. That darn spring can't be weak because I don't think I could compress it by standing on it. If it still fails to fire I'm gonna take it to my wife's grandfather. There is not a decent licensed gun smith within driving distance so if I can't fix it myself Idk who to call other than him. Would have taken it to him in the first place but he tends to take his time and wanted it operational before squirrel season ends.
Does Rem oil that comes in spray form do the same crap!? Cause this was awful I mean I really thought it was dried up soda pop. I believe you I'm just saying it was that sticky!
If I remember right, when I did a pair of Savage 24's for a friend, I did basically what you did and used a pin punch as a slave pin once I got the hammer lined up. The first one was hard.
Dedicated oils should be fine, but like anything if you get too much it can accumulate gunk to them. I use Rem oil quite a bit to quick spray down, but my main go-to is Corrosion-X. Many prefer Break-Free or some other oil/lubricant. ATF fluid from your car is an excellent lube.
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