Pietta 1858 Remington cylinder pin fitting

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  1. electricfactory

    electricfactory Member

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    So I recently came into a Pieta Remington 1858 revolver which has an issue. The seller told me it had been sitting over a fireplace for years and the amount of rust and patina bears that out. The thing is the cylinder, cylinder pin and loading lever do not match in finish with those three items being blue and looking newer than the gun. When it arrived I could see that those parts didn't match the gun, and though the gun appears to index fairly well ( see the bolt line on the cylinder) the cylinder pin dosen't fit the cylinder pin hole without forcing it, see the pics below. I guess I'm buying a new Pietta cylinder pin from Taylor's & Co since I have no way of the present pin down.

    The cylinder pin won't go any further into the frame without forcing it, it is too thick at the base

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  2. 44 Dave

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    As bluing ages it may not age the same as on this NMA, but I think yours has had parts replaced. DSCN5369.JPG
     
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  3. 1KPerDay

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    Got a file?
     
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  4. cowboydave

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    I would try filing to fit.
     
  5. DocRock

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    ^^^^

    Buy some Emory cloth and. If you buy a new pin, you will need the same. Pin, cylinder hole, and frame seat for the pin. Betting the latter is the culprit.
     
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  6. electricfactory

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    Please elaborate

     
  7. skeeterfogger

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    Polish it till it fits then reblue it.
     
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  8. DocRock

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    There will be rust and gunge on the pin, inside the cylinder hole and where the pin seats into the frame at the rear of the cylinder. My bet is some BP fouling and corrosion in the latter will be the major culprit. Clean them all up with Emory cloth and the pin will seat, my bet.
     
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  9. electricfactory

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    Trying it now!
     
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  10. electricfactory

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    Filing of the pin seems to be working albeit slowly, trying to figure out how to emory-polish that frame hole. Perhaps a small rotary tool sanding bit.

    Edit: yup, that's doing the trick
     
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  11. arcticap

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    Sight unseen, I would alter the cheapest part.
    Or use a brass brush on the hole, but only if needed.
    Ahhh, such is life to 2nd guess when it can't be seen.
     
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  12. electricfactory

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    I've had severl Remington 1858's over the years, this is the first time ever iIve had to fit the cylinder pin.
     
  13. skeeterfogger

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    I'm curious of the year of manufacture. Could it be old enough that maybe it takes shorter cylinder?
    I know some of the older different make ones won't take the newer cylinders without modifying the front of the frame.
    If so is the replacement pin too long too?
     
  14. electricfactory

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    I spent some time filing and modifying the cylinder pin and finally got it working. I removed the ugly varnish from the grips, stained and TruOil-ed them. I worked on matching the cylinder and loading lever finish to match the rest of gun. Finally I tuned the action ( as best as my amateur skills would allow) and the gun now cycles correctly. I also lightened the main spring a little bit. Next off to the range!
    To note, the Italian barrel markings on either side are intact, they're just very faint. There don't appear to be any date codes. Top barrel address, NAVY ARMS Co RIDGEFIELD NJ. There are no frame markings visible anywhere. Under the grips and on the frame is what I presume is the serial number, which matches the cylinder serial number. Which by the way I've never seen on an Italian reproduction Rem 1858. I don't know how old this gun is but it looks to me like an early example.

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  15. DocRock

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    Wow! Great save. That looks fantastic, especially the grips. And a great holster. Nice set up!!!
     
  16. hrt4me

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    which holster is that?
     
  17. electricfactory

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    A custom T.D.HELTON holster, Ridgemont, Georgia, I added aging.

     
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  18. cowboydave

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    Wow, you did a great job on matching the parts and I love that holster. Looking good.
     
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