Pietta 1858 Remington trigger spring

[TWC]

Would love to find a piano wire type trigger spring. No luck. Read some where for Colt style cap and ball revolvers that a later model cartridge revolver piano spring type could be modified,shortened?, bent to work. Anything like that that will work for the 1858? Would a 1858 Uberti spring be modified to work? New to doing springs so pardon me if I'm asking dumb questions in my ignorance.

 

[arcticap]

I tried to research the topic and only came up with a cup that's 1/2 full for an answer.

Someone on the 1858 Forum said that his research comparing the flat Uberti and Pietta trigger/bolt springs indicated that they were different.
And he went on to make his own wire spring using wire benders. --->>> https://1858remington.com/discuss/index.php?topic=4478.0

Questions asked of Wolff Springs said that they didn't know which of their springs would work since they are all labeled to specifically fit Colts.--->>> https://www.n-ssa.net/vbforum/archive/index.php/t-267.html

However it is suggested that because the Colt and Remington trigger and bolt parts are so similar that pre-made wire springs can be used and adapted for the Remington if necessary, but without giving any specifics regarding which spring to order. --->>> https://civilwartalk.com/threads/up...olver-to-a-music-wire-sear-bolt-spring.96785/

You've probably come across Smokin' Joe's pastie about how to make the Colt trigger / bolt spring from a safety pin. It doesn't cost much to try to make one to fit the Remington. --->>> https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/cylinder-bolt-spring.623759/

Even Wolff makes both types of Colt springs, flat and round wire. Some have said that changing to wire is not always preferred, even though wire usually doesn't ever break. But they may need adjustment over time. --->>> https://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=3&mID=1&dID=96#403

Unrelated unless desiring a lighter trigger pull for the Remington, is a thread that indicates a direct Wolff replacement mainspring for the [Pietta] Remington 1858 which will lighten the trigger pull more favorably than by replacing the flat trigger /bolt spring. --->>> https://1858remington.com/index.php?topic=5248.0

"IMO one should stay away from trying to lighten the bolt spring section. The bolt needs a good lockup especially with the shallow bolt groove of a conversion cylinder. You might try bending up the portion that is the trigger spring part to lighten trigger pull. Having said that, the most effective method to lighten a trigger pull, other than messing with the sear, is to install the Wolff 32280 hammer spring."

To conclude, I can't find a thread indicating a direct replacement Heine or Wolff wire spring that actually fits the Remington 1858.
Some folks make their own while others have either "maybe or probably" adapted the replacement Colt wire springs to fit their Remington.
There's nothing definitive that I found, only suggestive that a factory wire spring should be able to be tweaked to work.
Perhaps that lack of concrete information is why people end up bending their own music wire if they really want one.
The info. has probably already been posted somewhere on the internet waiting to be found.
If anyone can confirm which wire spring to buy and post a reference to the thread then that would be very helpful to others.

 

[TheOutlawKid]

For a Remington...best to ask Mr.Mike from Goons Gun Works a.k. 45 Dragoon. I know how to build and set up wire spring set ups for open tops but not remingtons.

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

The easiest thing to do is to buy a few springs and try them.

This is a photo of an Uberti Cattleman with a wire replacement bot/trigger spring. I don't remember, but I suspect I bought this one from Wolff a bunch of years ago.






Here is a link showing the Wolff springs, in particular near the center of the page is a photo of their wire bolt/trigger spring.


https://www.gunsprings.com/COLT/SINGLE ACTION ARMY - COWBOY ACTIONS/cID3/mID1/dID96#403


The easiest thing to do is to just buy a couple of springs and see what will work. Wire springs are easy to reform using a needle nose pliers. I have a couple of 1858 Remmies, but I have never tried replacing the bolt/trigger spring with a wire spring. If I wanted to, I would order a couple of the Wolff springs and see if I could get them to work. At $6.49 each, it is not much of an investment, even if you can't get them to work. If you do get them to work you will have learned something you can share here.

 

[TWC]

Thanks to all that replied. I appreciate all the links. I called Mr. Wolff and he said no and wouldn't elaborate. But he has a business and in this day and time I reckon liability is a major concern. You are sure nice to a new guy. I'm a F.B. refugee,just couldn't bear it any more. Tried MeWe and still go there but haven't figured it out. Getting over a crazy blood pressure thing and have to keep my hands and mind busy. In my old mind fog and med fog I managed to order the wrong spring. Also managed to order other wrong parts. I don't need them,just stocking up for uncertain times ahead. Really liking this place so far. I don't claim to be any kind of gunsmith and only bubba stuff that is junk and would be throwed or parted out. Thanks for all the help!