Pietta 1858 Target vs. Non-Target

[snakyjake]

Between Pietta' 1858 target and non-target models, which should I get? I don't understand why someone wouldn't want rear sights, and the front sights look better built.

 

[junkman_01]

The target model sights are not historically correct. That is why some won't get them.

 

[arcticap]

The target model generally offers a little more insurance that it will shoot closer to the point of aim. The front sight isn't dovetailed on the Pietta fixed sight model which means that in order to adjust the windage, a dovetail and new sight would need to be installed.
Also, some projectiles will shoot to a different point of aim.
The Uberti Remington model does have a dovetailed front sight but it also costs more.

 

[FreddyKruger]

the target model is just that, for target shooting. Usually for shooters that set up their loads etc for accuracy and scoring points. the plain model is historically accurate.

Over here theres a few different catagories for BP Pistol shooting. fixed sight revolver and adjustable sight revolver are just 2. then theres replica single shot, modern single shot and smoothbore.


the problem with fixed sights is that you have to use POA to hit with whatever your load is. ie my walker hits almost a foot high at 25m with my 30gr charge, filler and 454 ball. still doesnt meant i cant get a nice group, but its not that easy aiming and a blank space on the target...

 

[MCgunner]

Fortunately, my '58 was spot on with RB and 25 grains 777 as is, no sight adjustment needed. 220 conicals shoot a tad high, though. If it's way off, that's when you wish you could adjust them.

 

[MCgunner]

the problem with fixed sights is that you have to use POA to hit with whatever your load is. ie my walker hits almost a foot high at 25m with my 30gr charge, filler and 454 ball. still doesnt meant i cant get a nice group, but its not that easy aiming and a blank space on the target...

My ROA shoots high with the sight all the way to the bottom. My Navy, being a colt replica, also shoots high. I prefer to use a modified sight picture rather than just hold low. Works more consistently. I had to file a little out of the hammer notch on the Navy, even so, to make the sight picture work, but I can keep 'em around the bullet at 25 now shooting RB and 20 grains 777 (brass frame, gotta go light anyway). I can put 5 220 conicals in a two inch groups POA with the ROA using this modified sight picture.

The great Elmer Keith also taught to modify your sight picture, but with him, it was for long range shooting with a revolver and he was holding the front sight high vs holding over and blotting out the target with the front sight. One can impress friends with a snubby .38 doing this at 100 yards once practiced at it. Holding over is tough because you're guessing where the target actually is.

 

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Been thinking about making these and selling them. Target Remington. Price
won't be cheap tho. But they will outshoot anything else out there. Price
I'm thinking 600-700.

 

[Mike OTDP]

Honestly, get the Pietta Shooter's Model at minimum. Anything less are various grades of plinker. Not dinging the Italians - they are working to a price point that does not allow for a lot of finesse.

 

[Dutterer]

I've got a '58 Target with a .45 Colt Kirst Konverter. Had to cut the channel for the loading gate myself, but I must say.... Well worth it. It's a nice piece. I also have two straight historical models. They shoot a little high, but that is to be expected. Just right for this Confederate Partisan.

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

The larger front sight of the target models do not play well with holsters

 

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While we do have timed fire revolver matches, you are allowed to start with
your pistol out of the holster and in hand.

 

[Curator]

According to the Dixie catalog, the pietta "target" model has chamber diameters that match bore/groove diameter for enhanced accuracy. If that is what you want along with adjustable rear sight, go for it! Basically are you making noise and smoke or do you want an accurate shooter?

 

[hang fire]

I've got a '58 Target with a .45 Colt Kirst Konverter. Had to cut the channel for the loading gate myself, but I must say.... Well worth it. It's a nice piece. I also have two straight historical models. They shoot a little high, but that is to be expected. Just right for this Confederate Partisan.

Same here, with a couple extra C&B cylinders as they are so quick to change out.