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Pietta "Old West" models: what am I missing?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by 1KPerDay, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. 1KPerDay

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    I really don't know about these models, but if you wait you can get a Pietta 1860 on sale for a lot less. Good luck.
     
  3. Texas Moon

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    Yep, its just artificially aged.
     
  4. 1KPerDay

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    I know. I paid $179 for both of my 1860s. I wouldn't pay over $200.
     
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    I wouldn't pay extra for that finish. The Pietta cap and ball revolvers are really inexpensive. I think they are just looking for some new gimmick to raise the price.
     
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    I am a fan of the Pietta guns. I have an 1860 with the "Old Silver" style of finish. Your first thought is that it is stainless. Not the case as they will rust easily. The finish is done in such a way as to make it very difficult to blue or brown.
    I don't like that finish.
     
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    Maybe it's the wrong picture but they don't appear to be aged at all. I might be interested if they were.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    Looks like you can order one in Cimarron's "original finish" right off the Texas Jack's website. I might go that route.
     
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    I enlarged and zoomed in on the popped up picture of the Regular Pietta Remington and then opened the Old West Remington in a new window and did the same with its picture.

    After sizing the popped up picture windows so one was right above the other, I see that the Old West is a bit duller/faded and the Regular finish seems shinier/blacker.

    So Old West is not really antiqued; more like used!

    I'm thinking maybe you could get a similar effect by buying one second hand that had not been kept clean? (and for less rather than more!!!)

    Needless-to-say, I'm not impressed.
     
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    This line is brand new to my knowledge. How long ago are we talking here?
     
  14. Malachi Leviticus Blue

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    To me, not worth any extra.

    I will say that I have a few revolvers that I acquired used that I'm rather fond of that show some "character"

    I think I'll agree that if you would like something other than typical Factory New, picking up a used revolver is a less costly, and possibly more satisfying way to go.
     
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    I don't know; I pulled up the photos from Cabela's and really don't see a whole lot of difference between the factory new finish and the "Old West" finish. At any rate I sure wouldn't be paying anything extra (from $60 to $70 more), for a new "used" finish versus that of the current factory blued finish.
     
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    It may be brand new for Cabela's; Pietta has been making them for at least 3-4 years if not more. I remember seeing them on their website in 2012 but that was the first time viewing it.
     
  17. DD4lifeusmc

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    There are numerous easy ways to age your gun without costing an extra $60.

    Cabelas and Pietta are plting on the stupid and gullibles out there

    1. a tub down with mustard and or vinegar repeat till you get what you want.

    2. Just take the dang thing out and use it a lot.
    It will fade and wear naturally
     
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    Takes more than stripping off the finish to properly age a sixgun.

    I don't have 100yrs to make one look old and a $300 Pietta beats the hell out of a $2000 150yr old relic.
     
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    aging

    Craig you totally missed the point.
    Yes I know it takes more than just a bit of vinegar or mustard.
    But that is a starting point.
    Also depends on how extreme you want to go.
    A good rub down with either will remove the bluing gradually to the amount of wear you want.
    Normal day to day use, and just using it, will add the dings and the scratches.
    But most seem to want to keep this tool (and it is a tool) pristine as it came out of the box.
    Even a fully professionally blued gun will rust. If it wouldn't, be no reason to clean and oil it.
    Thus after you have removed the bluing to your satisfaction routine cleaning and oiling will eliminate the rust, and you can concern yourself with just shooting and enjoying the dang thing.
    But I see no reason to pay roughly $60 to have a factory make a fake for you.
    When a $3 bottle of vinegar and some one on one time will achieve the same look, and the satisfaction you did it yourself (which was the point).
     
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    As posted previously, there is more to these guns than just the finish.
     
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    Then someones marketing department should be fired for not advertising those features better.
    Do you happen to have any links to specifications or details?
    I'd be interested to see what they list
     
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    Not offhand anymore, this was discussed on these forums a couple of years ago. Pietta still doesn't advertise the fast twist of their .44/.45 barrels either and that change was in the latter part of 2012.
     
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    swathdiver - I did a search of the old posts on this forum with "Pietta Old West" and this thread is the only one that appears with "Old West" being a finish option.

    All the earlier posts used "old west" generically referring to time and place.

    Are you thinking of EMF's line of "HARTFORD" Pietta products.

    They are available in both cartridge and cap & ball replicas and are a deluxe version of Pietta's regular offerings.

    While these were recently made by Pietta just for EMF, they were made for them by ASM before it closed its production line in 2000.

    EMF seems to no longer offer a HARTFORD line.

    I have heard very good things about the ASM HARTFORD 1873 Peacemaker clone and I personally can vouch for the accuracy, fit and finish of the Pietta HARTFORD NMA clone.

    I also have a Colt Addressed ASM HARTFORD 1851 that I have not fired but which looks great and cycles very smoothly.

    http://www.emf-company.com/
     
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    Do tell...
     
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    I own two fantasy revolvers 51' navy's in 44c I sure like mine!! infact I just did a browning job on my traditions Kentucky rifle in 45 c flintlock and I used Dixie gun works browning solution and it works very well! so I am about to brown one of my 51' navy colt that I built from a kit from dgw, with this same solution to make it look really old and rusty! the rifle turned out really good!! :)
     
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