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Pizza deliverman shoots robbers

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by LaVere, May 11, 2007.

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  1. LaVere

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    FLINT (WJRT) - (05/11/07)--A deadly shooting involving a pizza delivery man and a group of robbers isn't the first such incident for the pizza man.
    The Genesee County prosecutor says the delivery man shot someone who tried to rob him in 2000. That person survived.

    Governor Jennifer Granholm last year signed into law a new self-defense bill. "It used to be that if there was a way that you could escape from a situation...even if somebody came into your house and you could escape, you were supposed to try to do that. Now, the Supreme Court came down and said, if your life is in danger, imminent danger, you know, you could shoot and shoot to kill," said Genesee County Sheriff Robert Pickell.

    The latest incident happened at 10 p.m. Wednesday night at the intersection of Hammerberg Road and Stoney Brook Court on Flint's southwest side.

    Police say the driver tried to get out to make a delivery when one of the robbers hit him in the back of the head with a wrench.

    The delivery man recovered enough to grab his gun and fired several shots, hitting one of the robbers.

    He died near a street sign just feet from the front doors of some shocked neighbors.

    Police are still investigating, but here's what we've learned. The pizza delivery man claims self defense and is in protective custody.

    It's unclear if he'll face charges because it's simply too early in the investigation.

    As for the group of robbers, police are searching for one of them. One was arrested one soon after the attack.

    One woman says she doesn't blame the delivery man and wouldn't have been sorry if the other suspects had experienced the same fate.

    "I'm sure he's been robbed before. And his life was just as important," said Fran Catalano.

    "He was doing a civic duty delivering a pizza to somebody. And let me tell you something: That guy ought to get a medal and he should have shot the other two."

    We did speak with the man who runs the Little Caesar's where the driver has worked for at least a year.

    He did not speak on camera, but said off camera that his drivers only carry about $25 or $30 at a time, and safety is a top and growing concern for their drivers.

    The suspects reportedly demanded money, but the delivery man pulled a handgun and killed one of the robbers, a 24-year-old man.

    The case is still under investigation.


    http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=local&id=5290986
     
  2. Dorryn

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    This has happened several times in the last few years here in Buffalo. So far, no pizza delivery guy who shot a would-be robber has been charged. I say good for them.
     
  3. ScottsGT

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    Hot pizza and hot lead, all in one delivery. Gotta love that service, taking out a scumbag in the process. :evil:
    Cannot wait to see the "Official response" from Little Caesar's.
     
  4. BobMcG

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    Good for him.

    Win, win.

    1) Pizza deliveries will continue. :)
    2) Robberies from this scumbag will not continue. :D
     
  5. orionengnr

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    "Good Evening, Darwin's Pizza, may I take your order?"

    I love a happy ending :)
     
  6. helpless

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    I delivered pizza, I had some close calls. Didnt care for firearms back then.

    pretty dangerous job.
     
  7. October

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    Where do you learn that pizza delivery qualifies as a civic duty? :scrutiny:
     
  8. Geno

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    The driver is in "protective custody"?! Doesn't sound to me like he needs "protecting". Sounds to me like they threw him in jail until they see if they can charge him too. What's up with that? :scrutiny:
     
  9. inkhead

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    They did say that they were still searching for one of the suspects. From the way it was worded it made it sound as if the pizza delivery guy wanted protective custody until the other suspect was arrested. Interesting.

    I still find sad that anybody had to die, obviously i would have reacted the same way. It's just sad that some individuals are so desperate for money that they would rob a pizza guy. Seriously how much money would theses thieves expect to get? $100 tops? The only people I know who would rob for such a small amount is people who have a drug addiction and need to score. Sad stuff.
     
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    It's a shame.... Mr.Would-Be robber doesn't even get a chance to eat his last meal. Who orders pizza for a last meal anyhow? :evil:
     
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    Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "What do you want on your Tombstone" doesnt it. ?
     
  12. JamisJockey

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    Moronic one liners aside.....

    I once delivered for Little Ceasar's. Policy was no weapons allowed (didn't stop me), not sure if it was that specific store's policy or actual corporate policy.
    I had a few close calls, too, and one of the two times I've displayed a firearm to ward off an attack happened while delivering.
     
  13. nra-life-member

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    It's great that CCW is Alive and Well!
     
  14. romma

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    You know what,,, I get the joke, I am just glad that I wasn't drinking hot coffee at the time, cuz that would hurt coming out of my nose. :)
     
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  15. BobMcG

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    Morons?

    Care to clarify?
     
  16. JamisJockey

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    Blood lust......

    Absolutely.
    A citizen had to defend himself with deadly force. A BG lost his life. The pizza guy will likely be sued. Some BG paid for his (own) poor choices with his life. And the responses are giddy with excitement that some pizza guy got to shoot a bad guy.
    Every mall ninja's wet dream.....
    Isn't there a sticky in S&T about blood lust?

    PS:
    Was it a good shoot? Probably. Did the correct person come out on top of the situation? Absolutely.

    How about showing a little more class and civility.
     
  17. kellyj00

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    good work.
    take the BG's off the streets!
     
  18. NavyLCDR

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    So does this mean that Pizza drivers now accept tips in the form of dollar bills or .45 acp's?
     
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    He will be out of a Job Soon

    The Piazza man will probably loose his job. Now I do not know the policy of Caesar’s Piazza, but the general (probably universal) corporate policy is that employees are not to be armed.

    This is because lawsuits effect corporate profits. Corporations only exist to create profits. If an employee wacks a robber, there might be a lawsuit against the corporation. If a robber murders an employee there is no lawsuit, and law enforcement becomes a Governmental function. Dead employees do not risk Corporate Profits, dead robbers do.

    Corporations put their employees at risk in all sorts of situations instead of spending money to protect them from criminals. The typical “Stop and Rob” totally plasters up the front windows with advertising, (blocking the view from the street), and turns off the lights in the parking lot (to save money), even though it has been shown that this increases the frequency of robberies, and shooting of clerks.
     
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    SlamFIre is correct. I guarantee you that there is a corporate policy against firearms. Corporations will put an employee out to dry in a minute to avoid a lawsuit. They have no conscience, no honor and no soul. It's all about a buck.
     
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    I'm willing to bet that the thugs involved already have a pretty good criminal history. What's sad is that some people have such poor values that they're willing to rob and possibly kill over a few bucks. What's really sad is that the so called 'justice system' can't seem to deal effectively with such trash and that some poor guy who's just trying to make a living has to take out the trash himself, and that some will make excuses and blame society for the lazy scum rather than place the blame where it belongs- Good riddance to the paracites.
     
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    When is the last time you read about someone having their own firearm used against them? I cant even remember... How often do we see news about someone defending themselves with a firearm? Around once a week. So much for that myth!
     
  23. romma

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    I agree that someone losing their life is sad, and that the path of moral decay that the person chooses leads to their demiseis sad as well. I find that when a BG goes down and a Good Guy comes out on top, that celebrating with a quip or two is a tempting endeavor...

    I'll admit it, I come to the Highroad to share, learn and be entertained. My taste for humor may be a little dark, but I myself am certainly no Mall Ninja...
     
  24. 30 cal slob

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    bullets bullets!














    you'll only get this if you've watched a little ceasar's ad on tv.
     
  25. Zundfolge

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    I'm not so sure he'll lose his job over this.

    They didn't fire him in 2000.


    I got all excited when I found out that Little Caesars was a member of the NRA ... but then I found out which NRA.

    I do believe that opinions of CCW packing delivery drivers is changing within the industry http://www.pizzamarketplace.com/article.php?id=3250 .
     
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