Pizza Parlour Shooting, Indiana

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  1. Grey54956

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    Not a good situation, but highlights reasons for CCW...

    http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/fortwayne/16365524.htm

    As best I can tell, victim carried gun before, foiled earlier robbery attempt, did not get shot.

    Boss tells victim that guns not allowed at workplace, victim gets robbed and fatally shot.

    I hope this one haunts the boss for a long time.

    Also, a slightly different version of the story, but see if you notice anything interesting about it:

    http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/16361451.htm

    No mention of CCW in the April robbery.

    Once again, training employees to "to give up everything in the store and not jeopardize their safety" is just secret code for "put your lives in someones' hands who neither cares for your safety nor lives in accordance to society's laws." Another good kid loses his life for his spineless employer's stupidity.
     
  2. Zundfolge

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    Sounds like the perfect setup for our testcase against employers or businesses that don't allow CCW.
     
  3. Bergerboy

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    I'm assuming his parents are still around? if so, I'd love to see charges filed against the employer.
     
  4. LaVere

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    I too would like to see the parents sue.
     
  5. jlbraun

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    Copied under fair use, as newspapers tend to move stories to their archives.

    Robbery victim was well-liked
    Pizzeria worker enjoyed nighttime job despite risks
    By Amanda Iacone
    The Journal Gazette
    Brunson

    The father of a Fort Wayne man shot and killed during a robbery Sunday morning had worried about his son’s safety working late nights at a pizza shop and had tried to persuade him to change jobs.

    Chad D. Brunson, 23, worked nine years for Tasty Pizza, 4302 Fairfield Ave., and foiled at least one robbery during that time, his father Daniel Brunson said by phone Monday.

    But a robbery at the pizzeria Sunday turned violent, and Chad Brunson was shot. Medics pronounced him dead inside the shop, and the Allen County Coroner’s Office said he died of a gunshot wound or wounds to the head. His death was ruled a homicide. Police are investigating whether the same men are responsible for other robberies in the city.

    Store owner and family friend Rick Harkelroad called the shooting his worst nightmare.

    And Daniel Brunson said it’s something that never should have happened.

    “I can’t believe people need money that bad to rob a place for a couple of dollars,” he said. And he doesn’t understand why they would place someone’s life in danger or risk going to prison.

    Harkelroad gave Brunson a job as a teen. But since then, Daniel Brunson had tried to persuade his son to take a factory job or work somewhere else. He could have earned more money and would have worked without the risk of being robbed, Daniel Brunson said.

    Chad Brunson was happy working at the store, though, and he didn’t care about a bigger paycheck, his father said.

    Through his job Chad Brunson met many people who in turn loved him for his generosity, his straightforward demeanor and the way he treated everyone fairly, his father said.

    His family has heard from people they never met who knew Brunson from buying their pizzas at Tasty Pizza. Neighbors who live across the street, a woman who works at a local CVS/Pharmacy and others have expressed how much they liked Chad Brunson, his father said.

    “The fact that a lot of people loved him … that’s a trait in life I couldn’t ask for anything better out of a son,” he said.

    Brunson played football during his years at Holy Cross Lutheran School. He went on to attend South Side High School. He also enjoyed hunting and fishing and collecting items such as coins, lighters and baseball cards, his father said.

    He didn’t smile a lot in pictures because he knew his family wanted him to. And he wasn’t a man to give hugs or say “I love you.” But he showed his family affection in other ways, Daniel Brunson said.

    Eventually Brunson became an assistant manager at the shop and worked late nights. The risk to his son’s safety bothered Daniel Brunson despite his son’s 6-foot-3 stature and lean, muscular build. His son was aware of the risks but didn’t talk about it, he said.

    Chad Brunson was licensed to carry to a handgun. He was armed the night a robber with a BB gun tried to demand money from the store in April. Brunson smiled, showed his gun and asked whether the robber really wanted to do that, Daniel Brunson recalled, an account that matches a Fort Wayne police report of the robbery.

    The police report said Chad Brunson had a Colt .45 in a holster underneath his shirt.

    His boss told him not to carry his gun to work after that, Daniel Brunson said.

    Police have not said what happened during Sunday’s robbery that could have led to the shooting. No arrests have been made, and an investigation continues.

    Investigators are looking into whether the two robbers might be behind other recent robberies. The north side of the city has experienced a number of robberies involving two armed suspects similar in description to the two involved with the pizza shop robbery and shooting, said Paul Shrawder, detective bureau captain.

    A similar pair robbed a BP gas station along Goshen Road on Saturday morning, he said.

    But the southwest and southeast sections of the city have been hit lately with robberies of pizza delivery drivers, which involve a different method than what happened inside the pizza shop, Shrawder said Monday.

    Last week, police arrested a man in connection with robbing a pizza delivery driver in the Pointe Inverness apartment complex. Brian Capps, 43, of the 6800 block of Covington Creek Trail, was charged with robbing a Papa John’s employee Dec. 18, police said. Police ask anyone with information about the Tasty Pizza robbery and Chad Brunson’s slaying to call Crime Stoppers at 436-7867 or police at 427-1222.

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  6. El Tejon

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    I sincerely hope the family initiates civil litigation against the store.
     
  7. Henry Bowman

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    Yes. Too bad we're above ambulance (or hurst) chasing, eh counselor? :evil: Sounds like about as good of a test case as we're ever going to find for disarmament liability.
     
  8. El Tejon

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    No, not above it (as long as I comply with the IN SCt.'s rules), wrongful death is not my forte. A victory here would be a fantastic boost to RKBA.

    With all the nonsense about passing laws to allow employees to keep guns in their cars:rolleyes:, a victory here would make the law a nullity once money enters the equation for doing business.:)
     
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    Perfect case for liability. Someone should contact people able to pursue this avenue legaly and perhaps aquire compensation for the parents at the same time.

    Really sad to see someone that felt responsible for providing for thier own safety and those of others rendered helpless and to die because it made someone else feel a little more comfortable.
     
  10. romma

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    Well the victim did have a choice to seek employment elsewhere... However, I hope the owner of this pizza joint thinks next time about the consequences of disarming his employees. Maybe instead of disarming them, he could encourage training and CCW.
     
  11. Zoogster

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    Anyone that works late hours and deals in cash with the public should expect to be robbed at some point. As such they should be armed for that occasion so they have that additional option.
     
  12. Firethorn

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    That's not enough for most employee safety concerns. Otherwise I could have an unsafe factory and use the excuse 'Well, he could have worked elsewhere if he wanted to be safe' anytime there was an accident.
     
  13. Beatnik

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    Yeah, but Firethorn, there are myriad laws governing what you can and can't get away with in your factory. The better part of a century of blue collar lobbying saw to that.

    The law is on the other side of the pizza delivery industry. It's actually shocking how similar this sounds when you think about it. It's a dangerous job, they knew the risks when they took the job, you're not forcing them to deliver pizza, the corporation has taken "reasonable measures" to see that nobody gets hurt, and in the end, they're the lower class of society anyway, right?

    Not like I'm calling for pizza delivery to unionize or anything... but maybe someone should organize a boycott or something. Tell them something like "I'm not going to buy your pizza when it gets here unless your delivery guy shows his piece".
     
  14. Henry Bowman

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    That's like saying that the employer who removed guards from machinery are not liable to the whorker who got his hand or head smashed because he knew it was dangerous and could have worked somewhere else. We would have to roll back the legal clock more than a hundred years to eliminate srtict liability in this kind of case.

    But in this case, the employers took unreasonable measures that increased the risk of injury or death - in spite of a known history to the contrary.

    Being disarmed "for our safety" is not.
     
  15. gunsmith

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    it was don't ask dont tell

    when I worked at dominos, though 1 time I offered to take pizza to bad hood and the boss said he doesn't want any customers to get shot:evil:
     
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