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Please help Identify this 1911

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Winter Borne, Sep 5, 2010.

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  1. Winter Borne

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  2. ugaarguy

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    The firearm in question is clearly marked Springfield Armory, not Smith & Wesson. The "GI Loop on the frame" you refer to is a lanyard loop. It's integral to the main spring housing, not the frame. It's just a Springfield Armory GI model with Pachmayr wraparound grips and a lanyard loop MSH installed.
     
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    I concur with ugaarguy; that's a Springfield Armory 1911-A1. However, that looks like a Mil Spec slide (note the angled slide serrations), that has GI sights.
    Regards,
    Greg
     
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    Interesting finish though, looks somewhat polished doesn't it?
     
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    And it has a lowered (but as far as I can tell not flared) ejection port.

    SA has been known to make small runs of "GI" pistols that have 2 or 3 parts from the "Mil-spec". I've personally seen quite a number of examples of this, usually SS barrel bushings or Hammers with polished/in-the-white sides (back when the Mil-spec had those), or slanted cocking serrations. the linked pistol is only the 2nd one i've seen with GI sights on a lowered port slide.

    Now all the above is moot if the pistol is/was bought used and the previous owner had the port lowered b/c the thing was dinging the heck out of his case mouths (like my GI did)
     
  6. 1911Tuner

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    If all parts are original, the pistol predates the Mil-Spec and GI models. Likely produced in the early to mid-80s. The thumb safety is the giveaway. These represent the best 1911 pistols that Springfield made. Designated "Model 1911-A1, all parts were machined with no castings present. Even the trigger was milled from a single block of steel. Hard to tell from the lighting, but the one pictured in Pauline's appears to be refinished. Every one that I've seen has been matte/parkerized.

    Those Springfields were accurate, as reliable as an anvil, and held up well under hard use. If I'd been able to see what was coming in the 1911 market just 10 years down the road, I'd have borrowed money and stacked'em up.

    Here's a nice one that came to me in pristine, near new condition. Serial number resolves to 1984.
    Finish-worn now from frequent carry, It's become my go-to 1911 pistol for yeoman service.

    [​IMG]
     
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    It's one of the older Springfields. The crossed cannons logo is to the rear of the ejection port. Only one newer model has it that way and it is the top of the line SA.
     
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    Thank you all so much for your usual encyclopedic knowledge!
     
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    I spoke with Vicky at Springfield this morning. She says it dates to October 1987, and is in their book as, "Pistol, Blued. 1990's Addition."

    That's all she could tell me about it, but since it is blued then it was not re-finished most likely... I am not sure what I was looking for from Springfield, but I was hoping for a little more than that, perhaps a Model Type or Name? Any thoughts on it's present day re-sale value. The seller is asking 500 OBO.

    Thanks

    mk
     
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    There is no model type or name. It's simply a Springfield 1911-A1.
     
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    My Springer is a "90s Edition" (circa Oct 1990) as well. The box has "19911-A1 90s Edition" checked (as well as the appropriate caliber and finish boxes). In the part number space is written "PI9608". It was originally blued, but I have since gone with DIY parkerizing. Now that I think about, the ejection port was lowered, but not flared (as it is now). My sights may be aftermarket, but I don't know for sure (bought it used).
    [​IMG]

    FWIW: NIB GI models are going for about $525 on gunbroker (you still have shipping and other fees). Buds had them listed at $516, but out of stock.

    Regards,
    Greg
     
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