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Please help me identify this strange gun.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Golden Hound, Apr 26, 2008.

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  1. Golden Hound

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    Hi, I am a new member here and I have joined specifically to inquire about a firearm which has been puzzling us for a while. Myself and other gun fans have been debating it for some time and are all puzzled. The gun in question appears on the cover of an album by a local indie rock band, Everthus The Deadbeats. It is being held by a small child. It almost looks like some kind of very heavily modified version of a scoped Mauser C-96 pistol with a long barrel, stock and flash-suppressor. At least, the pistol grip visible near the bottom looks as if it is "ribbed" in the manner of the "broom handle" pistol. What is the deal with that stock and barrel?

    Here is the picture.

    I'm fairly certain that at least the rear portion of it is derived from a Mauser C96. See this image I created for the sake of comparison - the proportions and angles of the Mauser pistol seem to fit with the gun in the image. But the rest of it is what confuses me. I've seen Mauser C96 pistols with buttstocks and extended magazines and various other modifications, but never one with such a huge barrel and what appears to be some kind of rail running along the top of it, and a wood grip beneath.

    Is this some strange prototype weapon made by Mauser? Is it a one-off custom piece cobbled together from parts of other guns? Is it, as some have suggested, a toy? I contacted the member of the band who designed the album cover and he said he took the photomontage from a 1960s-era issue of Playboy magazine. This makes me doubt the "toy" theory because I don't think they produced toy guns back in the 60s which were as complicated and detailed as that piece in the picture. Others have theorized that it was a stage prop made up of random parts and not a functional weapon. Another poster suggested that it was a prototype of an AAI "flechette rifle" which never went into production (I doubt this.) What's the real story here? Any ideas?

    I appreciate any and all responses. Thanks very much in advance.
     

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  2. Kind of Blued

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    Not sure.

    It's ugly though! :)
     
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    Wow! Fast answer. Thanks a lot! (Oh and I don't think it looks ugly at all, I actually love it.) This one is going on the list of future rifles to buy someday.
     
  5. Caimlas

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    The receiver on that actually looks a lot like an overbuilt AR15 receiver a friend of mine bought a while back - or, at least, the magwell does.

    It's hard to tell due to the photo quality; it looks to me like it's an amalgamation of gun parts, and may have been some sort of prop made by the Playboy people for the photo shoot.

    For that matter, what are pictures of children doing in Playboy magazine?
     
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    Just heard back from another guy who had this to say:

    Any thoughts?
     
  8. CBS220

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    Possibly a made-for-a-movie gun that just happens to resemble the AMT.
     
  9. Sistema1927

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    It is a drawing. Looks like a vintage "artist imagination v. 7.2" to me.
     
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    Looks like a toy, should be kid-safe.

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    Given that the rest of the poster is a collage, I think that the "gun" is ALSO a collage of the different features that a non-gunner would likely think belongs on a "assault-type rifle"; pistol-grip? Check. Ventilated barrel shroud? Check. Muzzle brake? Check. Telescopic sight, to allow rapid-fire spray from-the-hip massacre of infants at long range? Check. And so on...
     
  12. Golden Hound

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    Weird, very weird.
     
  13. bannockburn

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    It looks like Han Solo's blaster was mated to a SIG AMT upper.
     
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    I wish I had an AMT/SIG PE57 and a Broomhandle for that matter. Swiss=expensive:(
     
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    Looks like a "Man From U.N.C.L.E. toy I had when I was a kid.
     
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    Armi-Jager M-16 copy in .22LR?
     
  17. Logan5

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    I had a toy rifle that looked like that in the 70's. No idea who made the thing, but mine had, IIRC, that very "scope".
     
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