Thoughts- -Pocket carry is another tool in the toolbox. -Pre-grip is another tool in the toolbox. -No tool is ever any better than the user of said tool. Folks, especially new folks to concealed carry , need to stop and remember, there is no holy grail, or absolute in all of this. There are simply too many variables amongst persons, where they live, environments they must be in, and tasks. Bring the work to you, don't go to the work- mentors This is something those of you that were apprentices heard so often. It does not matter what industry you apprenticed for, it applied, and still does today. Simple, if you are working on something, bring in close to you , so you can see it, and have more control with being able to brace yourself. Don't have the work "out there" where you all contorted and your human being, gets hand cramps, and stiff necks, and the normal things bones, muscles, and nerves will do, being in a uncomfortable position. You bring a plate of food close to you. High chairs and booster seats are used for babies and kids... Same principle. It ain't cheatin' if'n it works- instead called "ingenuity" - mentors. You will have to just accept some things I am about to share, because I will not explain myself, as I don't have to, and some things must stay private. No disrespect, still have some you folks ever paid attention to how and where some criminals carry weapons? Hint: They ain't trying to look or act like TEEM SEEL, or SWAT. Yes, some gangs use the gal to carry the gun , loose in a purse and when the signal is given, she moves toward "shooter" who gets the gun, and "put a nine in your arse". That gal also may have a gun stuck in her Small of Back, and the shooter, can access a number of ways. Gang members are not the only ones that carry in front of pants, without a holster either. Most of my dealings have been off mid line, on weak side, for a "cross draw" sorta draw if need. If need, the gun can go back to front of pants, and "retention" is done with weak hand, allow strong hand to hit , or whatever needs doing. A lot of the retention drills law abiding are taught, means using strong hand to retain gun, leaving weak hand for use. I was raised... WE cheated. High Risk industry, and we cheated big time. Criminals cheat, so why shouldn't we. Our clothes were modified. Tailors and seamstresses "tweaked" our clothes. Yeah, I/we did not always use a holster. The gun was secure, concealed, easy to get a grip on. I was taught to draw and shoot weak hand as well. We all were. Criminals watch hands, often times they have cased you and know your strong hand. They will impede strong side, and will be watching strong side. So "maybe" the gun weak side, was not in a "holster" , and you can shoot through the tweaked coat pocket. Before the law changed, the "wallet" for a High Standard Derringer, was a neat tool for the tool box. These wallets are not legal now... In the movie, Way of The Gun where is James Caan Gun? The scene where he steps out, and is asked to show he is not armed. He was armed, and he had a gun... Hint: He had a firing grip on his gun, when he showed he was not armed. One has to access themselves, be brutally honest about what they can and cannot do, and get someone to teach them. Then continue with quality practice. I will not share some things on a public forum, besides, criminals already know this stuff, just no need to assist a wannabe criminal. No, I still do not always use a holster. In some of what ... For blending in, and giving perceptions, not using a holster was best. Sorry, but I was raised with 3 rules of gun safety, hot ranges, big boy rules and whatever else. Some THR members have met me, spent time with me, and you would have to ask them if they knew who, what, or where I was carrying concealed. I was dressed in jeans, tucked in oxford shirt, no coat. I have had more than one gun on person. I have had my hand on a gun more than once in various settings, including driving, and riding in a car, and seated in a restaurant. The BGs often know more about the where, when and how, of concealed carry, than the law abiding, and will use this against you. Granted it depends on the Model of Criminal. As some of the criminals have better concealed carry guns, holsters, mag carriers and clothing than law abiding. Some...it looks like a IDPA/ISPC/3Gun match going on. I have watched this live, and on tape. -Don't look like prey, think like a criminal. -Think out of the box. -Access with brutal honesty -Get quality lessons/training, and continue quality practice. Just because something works for you,does not mean it will work for me. Then again, some of what I was raised with , would get me yelled at. My world, so being a rebel, outlaw, crazy, or unconventional was "normal". Whatever "normal" is supposed to be. I dunno, never have, never expect to know...don't care if you want to know the truth. -The more tools in the toolbox, and the more tools one knows how to use, the better equipped they are to handle situations in need of repair.