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Pocket/IWB snubnose .38 poll

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by cluttonfred, Nov 4, 2019.

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Which snubnose .38 would you choose for daily pocket/IWB concealed carry and why?

Poll closed Nov 11, 2019.
  1. Charter Arms Off Duty (12 oz)

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  2. Ruger LCR (13.5 oz)

    22 vote(s)
    17.6%
  3. S&W Bodyguard .38 (14.3 oz)

    9 vote(s)
    7.2%
  4. S&W 442/642 (15 oz)

    56 vote(s)
    44.8%
  5. Charter Arms Undercover DAO (16 oz)

    6 vote(s)
    4.8%
  6. Taurus 856CH Ultra Lite (16 oz)

    6 vote(s)
    4.8%
  7. Other (specify in your post)

    25 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. The Evangelist Cowboy

    The Evangelist Cowboy Member

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    I've carried most of the options on here. I never had issues with any of them. I can tell you the Smith and Wesson bodyguard has been the most accurate for me, but that is highly anecdotal and could just be how I shoot the gun. If I didn't have alot of money I'd go for a used Smith 642 but if I JUST HAD to buy something new the Taurus is not a bad option at all
     
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  2. RealGun

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    My Gunsmoke S&W 637-2 weighs very little, so I reload low-recoil for it with 110 grain XTPs for carry ammo.
     
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  3. Elkins45

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    I’ll offer an anti-vote for the 340PD. It’s nice and light in the pocket but is just brutal to shoot, and I say that as someone who routinely shoots 44 magnum revolvers. It’s just too light to be shootable. The airweight guns are just a few ounces heavier but that makes a world of difference in how they shoot.

    If I were buying a new pocket revolver I would buy an LCR...in 327 Federal. The extra shot is a big deal and is more important than the slightly smaller bullet.
     
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  4. RevolvingGarbage

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    I suppose with deep pockets and a strong holster designed for it, this Rossi M68 could be pocket carried. I carry it most often at 1:00 using the hair tie trick, but I do also have a DeSantis IWB that I use with it sometimes.

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    I like the heavier steel frame, but I've never owned an aluminum framed revolver so maybe I'm just used to it.

    I once had a Rossi 461 .357mag snub. It was a beautiful blued gun that loved to rust, but was otherwise an absolutely ideal carry revolver. I've never felt a gun that was better in the hand. If I ever get hold of a Rossi 462 which is the same gun in stainless, I will have my forever carry gun.
     
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  5. Kleanbore

    Kleanbore Moderator Staff Member

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    I said this.....

    "It doesn't matter what anyone else prefers. what matters is whether you can carry it comfortably, whether you can shoot it with a good balance of speed and precision (think three shots in around two seconds into the area of an upper chest at twelve feet), and whether your hand hurts after a session at the range."​

    I should have also this: Attend a good defensive shooting course that allows revolvers, and see how you do. Slow shooting at a seven yard target at the square range will tell you nothing.

    I have attended a good defensive pistol shooting course (800 to 1300 rounds) and a good pistol course with the emphasis on realistic defense (three days). Semi autos were required for both (no mouse guns allowed).

    I learned a lot. One thing I learned was that I most certainly do not want to be constrained to five shots, except in a BUG. Forget the idea of reloading when you are under attack-- except for New York Reloads.

    Another important thing was that I could not handle the drills with a DA revolver with a heavy pull.

    The Colt and Kimber have much easier trigger pulls, six shots, and enough weight to make them shooters.

    A three inch barrel may be preferable, but they were not available when I bought the Kimber.
     
  6. The Bushmaster

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    S&W Model 10 with 2" barrel (If I carried a .38 Special). My normal revolver carry is a S&W Model 19 with 2 1/2" barrel.
     
  7. RealGun

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    You know you're going to hear that a pocket gun is better than the Glock you left at home. Tiny semi-autos I have seen at the range are notoriously unreliable, although admittedly some are newly purchased and out for the first firing. Let's just allow the premise that--if you wanted a pocket revolver-- what would it be.
     
  8. cluttonfred

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    OK, I'll bite. What's the "hair tie trick"?
     
  9. RevolvingGarbage

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    The "hair tie trick" is better than totally unsecured tucked into your waistband. Not something I would recommend for most people, and not something I would risk with a chambered autoloader regardless of the safety mechanism used.

    You take a basic hair tie and put it around the 1 o clock belt loop on your jeans before you thread the belt through the loop. Pull the tie upward, place end of barrel in loop, tuck gun into front of pants, adjust pants to keep gun secure. Keeps the gun from possibly sliding down your pants.

    It's a very comfy way to carry a snub revolver, but it's not for everyone.
     
  10. SwampWolf

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    Given the op's criteria, the Ruger LCR is my choice. I much prefer its da trigger pull over any of the many Smith & Wesson J-frames I own and/or have owned. The little Ruger fits nicely in my wife's conceal carry purse and she shoots it well.

    The op's insistence on a revolver "being readily available and in current production" aside, I'd look for a vintage Colt Cobra/Agent in good condition. Weighs the same or less than a Smith Airweight and carries one more .38 Special round (6 vs 5).
     
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  11. ApacheCoTodd

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    I like these 340 series snubs. In keeping with the OP's criteria, this is often a very lightweight .38 in which I'm able to transition up to .357 at times. On my scandium here, I load rather hot .38 loads in .357 cases to cope a bit with the insane recoil in training and for my wife and then carry Federal defense loads when it's in my pocket. Which is VERY often.
    These are what.... under 12 ounces, I think? 11.8 or so.

    If you get a used one, check the frame shield for excessive cutting. If it hasn't passed through the shield, S&W will replace it for you.

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  12. 1MoreFord

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    640 no dash.
     
  13. Haywood

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    The 442 has become my favorite. You would have to decide witch fits you and what you shoot best. I carry one in the pocket and one in the waist. I’ve had Two Taurus 85s, Charter, Colt Detective Special, Colt Agent, Two SP101s, LCR357, and Eight S&W J Frames. 52A5CB92-8D47-412E-9ADB-406D229F2F7C.jpeg
     
  14. Blue Brick

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    That brass looks so old....
     
  15. RevolvingGarbage

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    Maybe 5 or 6 years at the outside most. Actually, that wadcutter on the right is W-W marked brass. It was last reloaded less than a week ago but the brass case could be 20 years or more old. Interesting to think where it was before I got it.
     
  16. Jonesy814

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    Have carried a 638 for years. Last spring an area shop had J frames for $335.99 so I thought I should get a second J frame. Got a 442 no lock. I like them both
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  17. WestKentucky

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    You made that list hard to pick from. For a 38, there are very few guns I would legitimately consider and almost all were covered. I would consider a Taurus “no view” in addition to the guns on the list. Also would consider a few older colts (cobra,DS). Realistically though, it would lie between 642 and LCR.
     
  18. roscoe

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    Model 38/638 is the most versatile, but the LCR has the best DA trigger.
     
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  19. tubeshooter

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    Hey, I have a question for the board, please...

    Basically I have been considering getting a 638. Just for something a little different. Up to now, all of my .38 Specials have had a full hammer besides this one 642 (my current EDC).

    My question is... how hard is it to de-cock a 638? Or to put it another way - if you are serious about SA capability, are you really better off just getting a 637?


    I look forward to the feedback and thoughts. Thanks in advance.
     
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  20. Steve51

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    I carry the LCRx38Spl+P. I use Crimson Trace laser grips. I like the option of being able to shoot in single action that is why I chose the exposed hammer option. I do not carry IWB - it is just not comfortable for me.
     
  21. Snowdog

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    Though I have other snubnose .38s, I picked up a matte stainless Taurus 856 today for cheap. Though I haven't shot it yet (or the past dozen firearms I've purchased since July), it fits the hand well. Essentially a 6-shot Model 85 with ever-so-slightly larger cylinder.
     
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  22. tubeshooter

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    I ran into some of these today and I kind of liked what I saw as well. That extra shot makes a big difference for a lot of folks, and the price is nice.


    I was also able to handle a 638 for myself today, and I was basically able to answer my own question from earlier.
     
  23. LaneP

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    Got a family portrait made today. Left to right: .38 Spl LCR, .357 LCR, S&W 642, S&W 60, Taurus 85. The wife carried the Taurus up until she got the LCR .38.

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  24. Michael Tinker Pearce

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    I put this Taurus Model 85 together specifically for pocket-carry. Steel frame, shortened barrel and grip, right side of the trigger-guard relieved for quick access and a custom Bocote grip. Remarkably controllable and comfortable to shoot, even with 130gr +P HSTs.
     
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  25. cluttonfred

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    I set the poll to be open only a week, so for what it's worth, here's a recap of the final results. The S&W 442/642 was the runaway winner with about 45% of the vote. Add in the 7% for the S&W M&P Bodyguard 38 (not the shrouded-hammer J-frame models) and S&W dominated. The Ruger LCR came in a distant second to the 442/642 with 18% and the two Charter Arms models together managed 6%, barely edging out the Taurus 856 with 5%. A full 20% of the vote went to other revolvers, many of which did not meet the criteria, but people like what they like. I am still mulling it over, I'll see how I like my new stainless Taurus 856 and go from there. Cheers all, Matthew
     
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