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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by 9mmfan, Jul 22, 2018.

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  1. PWC

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    If you find another barrel you could thread the longer one for a supressor....just a thought
     
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  2. toivo

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    Numrich has barrels, both used and new.

    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/colt/auto-pistols-colt/1903-pocket-hammerless

    Here are direct links to new ones:

    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/553770

    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/553760
     
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  3. 9mmfan

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    Thanks for the lead.

    Unfortunately, the one for my gun is out of stock.

    I will check back to see when another pops up.

    Thanks again for the info.
     
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  4. 9mmfan

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    Dig it when folks dig my bag.

    Thanks
     
  5. bassjam

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    If and when I get a SA .380, I'll have a real hard time not getting the Colt.

    To me the other 3 are just knock-off copies, and I have a real hard time giving money to a company like that. I'm not sure I'd have bought my LCP if I'd have known at the time what I know now.
     
  6. Hasaf

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    I certainly understand that. My reason for not going Colt was the sights. The ones I saw were no better than the sights on my 380 Government Model. The Kimber's sights are significantly better. I also liked the colour pattern, but that is a minor point compered to the sights.
     
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    I have one like it!
     
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  9. Col. Cornelius

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    Colt Mustang XSP

    Great model, I really like mine.
     
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  10. HisSoldier

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    If it's for carry the Kimber will be lighter, and Colt made aluminum framed models. If it's a treasure for enjoying at the range or passing down to later generations the all steel framed Mustang is far better IMO. Best of all the Stainless version, and the Gov't .380 stainless sacrifices little of value. It's a tad longer but not so you'd notice, and better sight length.
     
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  12. Gary A

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    The Sig P238 locks up in an entirely different manner than the Colt (or the others). Due to that, even it’s outward appearance is quite different with its squared off slide. While it is single action and has a similar size, I’ve never understood the claim that is is a Colt clone. It’s way too different for that claim, IMO. The same logic would mean refusing to buy any 1911 that isn’t made by Colt which is anyone’s right but seems a needlessly narrow path.
     
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    I do wish one of them would produce a new version of the government model, preferably Sig, in my opinion. 7 round magazine with. 3.25 inch barrel. And, I’d rather it had a steel frame. Maybe not practical but I would like one.
     
  14. Gun Master

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    I like all of the above, but are we considering the 9 x 18 mm (Makarov) in the discussion ?
    This has a little more power over the 9 x 17 mm (.380).
    I currently have two 9 x 18's, and two 9 x 17's.
    I especially like the CZ-82. It has a large magazine capacity ( 13 ), and is DA, but the CZ-83 holds 15.
    Depends on your wants and/or needs.:scrutiny:
     
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  15. MedWheeler

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    Gun Master, are there any pocket-sized, single-action handguns in 9x18 available?
     
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    MedWheeler - The Radom P64 is about the size of a PPS. You will need an aftermarket trigger spring because the DA trigger pull is about 20 pounds. The SA was ok without any modifications. The recoil is brutal. However, it's a lot of firepower in a small package. I carried mine more than I shot it.
     
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  17. MedWheeler

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    macadore writes:

    I'm familiar with the P64, even own one. However, it is not a "single-action pistol", which is part of the thread-topic (that's why the PPK-types didn't come up in the thread.)

    If your P64 has a 20-pound trigger, it's ahead of mine. Mine's got to be pushing thirty. It's brutal. But, yeah, the single-action mode is pretty crisp.
     
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  18. Gun Master

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    The P64 is DA/SA, and the DA is extremely difficult to operate. Wolff Springs helped a great deal, but they were "murder" for me to install.
    Everything you stated in your post was correct.
    In another thread someone complained about the difficulty in using their P64 in DA mode. I said they could just use it like a SA only, and it would operate fine, unless they wanted to install the previously mentioned replacement springs.
    "Technically" the P64 is a DA/SA, but some might consider it "practically" a SA.
     
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  19. Gun Master

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    No, not to my knowledge.
     
  20. Gun Master

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    This thread is about (1) SA and (2) .380 pistols, which you tactfully pointed out in postings # 40 and # 42.
    The 9x18mm pistols qualify under neither category, and I agree should not continue under this thread.
    Someone could start a new thread if they wish to explore this further.
     
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    I would also like to see a pistol using the .380 Government lower and a short barrel upper. I had no trouble getting the upper from my Kimber onto the Government lower, I just never remember to try shooting it that way, at the range, to see if it really is an improvement. The biggest improvement that I see is the longer grip, for more control, and the larger Government magazine.
     
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    Doesn't look like anyone's addressed the concept of a cocked and locked 1911 midget in one's pocket. Doesn't take much to flip the safety from safe to fire and there is no grip safety like on the 1903. You'd be better off with a Colt Pony if you're set on a 1911 type 380 (it's DAo I think) and has a pretty good feel to it (yes, my kid talked me out of it several years back and now changes the subject every time I bring it up)

    The walther PPK series are great pocket weapons ( a tad heavy as they are all steel in the center fire ones) have carried one for going on 15 years now in one form or another
     
  23. Gun Master

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    I have one of the original pocket pistols, Colt 1908 .380 ACP.
    It was made in 1931 . I plan on buying a .32 ACP barrel to have options with calibers.
    The .380 mag accepts, chambers and ejects .32, also.
     
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    I know Archie would be red faced yelling “stifle” but I just gotta now that the seal has been broken...it isn’t SA only but a Walther really is a nice option and a far cry from the squared-off looks of a Sig with nary a sharp edge on it.

    Me, I picked up an Interarms imported copy, the FEG APK Mark II a few years back for the princely sum of $250. DA pull I’d estimate around 9 pounds, SA is maybe 4, and sights, though not fabulous work for short range mainly because it points so well.

    Barring that I vote Colt.

    Think of the money you’ll save!
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    Shiny blue that’s not mistakable for a toy (ok the lasered import marks could be mistaken for those of a toy).
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    If you found the sights wanting, spend a bit at the Smith and go custom.
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  25. MedWheeler

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    Gun Master writes:

    That DA trigger stroke is pretty much nothing more than a stout "deactivate-and-fire" safety, isn't it? ;)
     
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