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Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Carl Levitian, Jun 18, 2008.

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  1. Carl Levitian

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    I'm not sure where to put this, so since it sort of is about pocket knives in part, I'll try here.

    Growing up as I did in the happy time known as post war America, was alot different than today. We had just won a major world war, and the economy was good, and most of all, there were lots of pocket knives. The Army-Navy surplus stores had the real stuff then. All steel scout knives that later were called demo knives, TL-29's, real Camillus made MK-2's, Case made army knives, machete's, English comando daggers. The stuff of dreams to a knife loving 11 year old. I saved up my allowance and got a brand new, still in the brown paper wrapper, one of those MLK all steel army scout knives. Used it for most of my childhood and adolesense. Maybe that why I love Swiss Army knives so much, growing up with a screw driver and can opener on my pocket knife.

    I recall every member of my family having a pocket knife of some sort in thier pants pockets. I don't think I was any taller than the the brown and white mutt we had, when daddy told me there were certain things every man should have on him. First of that list was a pocket knife. Daddy put a great store in having a pocket knife on him everwhere. To the office, church, family picnic, hiking in the mountains where he would add a sheath knife. I never saw a person get so much milage out of a pocket knife before or since. And he didn't believe in having more than one pocket knife. He was one of those frugal old timers who since they have one in thier pocket, why on earth would he need another one?

    I remember my first rabbit hunt. Daddy had his old Winchester model 69, and when the first rabbit was shot, daddy took out that little knife and went to work. He always carried a little two blade Case pen knife, and I think it took him all of a minute to field dress that rabbit. Opened up in a jiffy with small razor sharp blade, and him telling me to always examine the liver for any white splotches to check the health of the rabbit. Then it went into his game bag.

    When the knife resembled a folding toothpick, daddy would go down to the store and get another little Case pen knife just like the one he had. He only had to do this a couple times in his life, as he would take years to finish off a knife. To him it was just a tool to be used up and then replaced. I guess he did not have the knife collecting afliction.

    Bandanas.

    Daddy always told us to have at least one bandana on us. I think he got more uses out of a bandana than Carter had pills. When we'd go to a ball game, or fishing, or anyplace out in the hot sun for a while, he'd put the bandana up under his ball cap so it hung down like the cloth on those Japanese soldiers caps, to protect his ears and back of his neck. If we were out in the boat on a lake, he'd wet the bandana first. Sometimes he'd use the bandana to bundle up small loose objects like .22 rounds, nuts and bolts, stuff.

    Fire.

    Daddy always told us to have a sourse of fire on us. Being a pipe smoker, he always had his Zippo fueled up and ready to go. He carried that beat up old Zippo his whole life. I have to admit, they are good lighters. Since I swiped one of daddys old pipes from the back of a drawer and snuck over in the woods next to the house at age 12, I've been a pipe smoker as well. I carried a Zippo for 30 years, but switched to a modern Bic. Got tired of running out of fuel at a critical moment like trying to light my pipe out someplace, and no fire. At least with the Bic, I can hold it up to the light and see how much fuel is left, so I can start making plans to carry a back-up. They're nice and light, so two still weigth less than my old Zippo. The white and yellow ones are best for seeing how much fuel is left. The big failing of the Bic is, its hard to get my pipe lit in the wind, unless I hold the pipe under my hat. Which is the next thing daddy always told us to have.

    Hats.

    Ball caps, Tilleys, boonie hats. All are good at keeping nature at bay. Cuts down on U.V. rays in the eyes, keeps rain off glasses, sun off head, heat in head. I read someplace that 80% of our heat loss is from our heads. Heck of a big heat sink. hats are handy.


    Flashlights.

    Recent technology has made really small but effective flashlights common place. I've found myself kind of captivated by the tiny LED lights we have available now. For the past couple of years I've had a Gerber sonic single AAA in my pocket right next to my Swiss Army knife. It's come in handy so many times, I can't recall how I got by without it. I see where some are no bigger than a quarter and go on the keyring. Let there be light.


    Any of you guys have things you won't leave the house without?
     
  2. jparham

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    Pocket knife. Various kinds, but I don't leave the house without one. I could easily get by with just my Case Medium Stockman, but I like a little variety.

    Not always, but usually an SAK. Why? Well, one, it is good to have redundency, in case one tool fails, but I've been in situations where my glass-bottle soda has gone warm because I have not had a bottle opener.

    Wallet. Among high-school students, which I am one, it seems to be fashionable not to carry a wallet except when you know you're going out to lunch. First, it is good to have your ID with you at all times, but you never know when you'll see something you really want, or when you stay out longer than you plan to and need to buy something to eat. Plus, I carry some nifty stuff in my wallet. I carry the sciccors and screwdriver from my Swisscard, as well as a P-51.

    Belt. I'm sorry, but gangsta fashion of wearing you pants around your ankles does not appeal to me.

    Watch. I like to know the time, and school doesn't allow you to just whip out your cell phone. It is also more convenient to look at my wrist while sitting down than it is to dig in my front pocket.

    Cell phone. It is a great tool, not only for its tools like the calculator or unit converter, but if you've ever been at a theatre where the payphones don't work and had to walk home in the cold, you'll know why its good to have on hand.

    Pen. It's good to have a means to write on you at all times.
     
  3. PTK

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    I sometimes wear both a belt and suspenders. But ALWAYS one or the other, as I wholeheartedly agree with your statement!

    I generally carry:

    Cellphone
    Knife
    Cash
    Flashlight
    Means of making fire
    Bandana
    Belt (as stated!)
    Pens/marker
    Basic medic stuff (I usually have a pack of Celox with me, along with an Asherman seal)
    Wallet
    Keys

    Plus my gun for the day, and anything else I may need.
     
  4. hso

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    WRT heat loss through the head, military and wilderness medical research indicates that the head only looses heat in proportion to the exposed surface area (~7% of the body), but that because we rarely wander around naked in the cold it can represent 50% of the body's heat loss if the rest of the body is clothed. I don't find any research that indicates any greater heat loss from the head than 50%.
     
  5. Coyote3855

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    I'll play...

    In my pockets or on my belt right now...

    KelTec 3AT
    Moore Maker 3.5 inch two blade trapper
    Key ring with mini-light, gerber fingernail clippers, and SAK classic, mostly for the tweezers and toothpick
    Chapstick
    Spyderco Endura clipped to waistband
    Leatherman
    Cell phone
    bandanna
    Wallet with cash, ID, CC permit, bandaids, extra car key.

    When not at work, the KetTec stays in my right pocket, but I carry more gun. A .357 Speed Six, Kahr P9, Springfield Armory 1911 depending on where I'm going.
     
  6. Coyote3855

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    Forgot fire. I carry an old Zippo and/or a Marble's matchcase with strike anywhere matches.
     
  7. Rupestris

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    I tend to carry a few things in a daypack when going back and forth to work since I have to lug stuff like a laptop anyway. Things like flashlight, fixed blade knife, digital camera, back up folder, water bottle, and a small first aid kit that has a few useful items in it.

    What goes in the pockets every day are:

    knife (usually a stockman or Wenger SI)
    Mini Bic lighter
    Cell phone
    Ferro rod without handle
    Rosary in leather pouch (Rosary and pouch are both "tactical" black ;) )
    Keys with leatherman Squirt P4

    Chris
     
  8. Skofnung

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    If I have my pants on, I have the following on me with few exceptions:

    Keys with SAK Classic and a cash can
    Wallet
    P3AT (unless in an area restricted by law)
    Spyderco Waved Endura (one heck of a knife for the money)
    Fenix L1D flashlight
    Victorinox Small Tinker
    Bic Lighter
    Cell Phone
     

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  9. TrapperReady

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    Always -

    Watch
    Keys (including Photon Microlight and Atwood Prybaby)
    Knife
    Sunglasses
    Wallet
    Fire (normally matches and/or flint & steel)
    Cell phone
    Glasses cleaning cloth

    In addition, I usually have -

    Small non-LED flashlight
    Compass
    Deck of cards
    Small notepad & pencil
    Dice
    Small digital camera
    First-aid kit

    NOTE: I spend a lot of time waiting around with my kids or family and looking to kill a little time. With a deck of cards and a handful of small dice, there's an almost unlimited number of games we can play.

    In the fall, winter and early spring all of this stuff fits easily into my jacket pockets. In the summer, I'll either travel lighter or keep the "in addition" stuff in a small camera bag.
     
  10. hso

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    Small Sebenza
    Imco Triplex Junior lighter
    Peak LED Solutions single AAA flashlight with a red Photon
    Atwood Prybaby
    Bandanna
    Cell phone
     
  11. 22-rimfire

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    Great a EDC thread. Carl L, my experience mirrors yours. I have ALWAYS carried a knife as early as the 2nd grade. Can't remember what I did in 1st grade other than I hated school.

    Since I'm a grown up now, I carry the following and feel like something is missing if it is not there:

    Cell Phone
    Watch
    Pocket Knife
    Keys
    Matches usually
    Wallet always. I resist going in the water at the beach 'cause I'll get my wallet wet and I don't leave home without it.
    Smith 442 most of the time.
    Small tablet with pen.
     
  12. bikerdoc

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    gun of the day, 9mm or 357
    cigs and lighter
    skoal
    3 knives -key chain, left pocket = scout right side =clip lock blade
    cell
    hand sanitizer
    wallet
    pen
    clip on sunglasses
     
  13. ArfinGreebly

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    It Varies

    Always:
    small pocket knife
    *** Case Peanut, Gerber Silver Knight, Buck Cadet, etc. (today = Peanut)
    cell phone/PDA, worn on belt (incorporates all kinds of geek stuff)
    Leatherman Wave (or equivalent), worn on belt
    wallet (with all the usual cards, but without cash)
    cash (separate from wallet)
    car keys (on one ring)
    house keys + copy of car keys (on a separate ring)
    security keys (separate from the others)
    Fisher telescoping Space Pen (trousers)
    Fisher bullet Space Pen, with stylus tip & added clip (shirt pocket)
    USB flash drive
    Often:
    large folding knife on belt
    *** usually a large sodbuster or EKA Swede 92, worn horizontal (today = not carrying)


    When I wear cargo pants, I have an extra pocket (not two, the wallet rides on one side), and in that pocket I carry:
    a medium knife or two
    *** SAK, sodbuster, stockman, trapper, etc. (today = SAK + DoubleCross)
    small LED flashlight (today = Streamlight "Task-Light" 1xAA)

    Now, the curse of geek pockets is that, unless you find a way to keep knives and flashlights apart, you clank and rattle when you walk. Very un-tactical.

    I've been looking for a way to have a small collection of small things in a large pocket and not have it rattle and clack and shift when I walk, sit down, or stand up. Most of the pocket/pouch solutions are too bulky, as they were designed to ride on a belt and are consequently stiff and thicker than I need.

    What would Steve do?

    (Steve would wonder what your head was doing inside a box.)

    So, I wandered through a sporting goods shop, looking for anything in any department of the store that might serve the purpose wthout my needing to do major surgery to it. And there, outside the box, was the glove rack over in clothing.

    A pair of medium goatskin gloves, very thin, light, and soft, was just the ticket. How do you turn a glove into a pocket insert? Turns out it's pretty simple. Roll the "cuff" of the glove down over the fingers, exposing the finger openings.

    Now, this being a leather split, the inside of the glove has a lot of loose "leather lint" which, when you turn it out, gets all over your pocket, and the same dandruff gets on your tools that you put in the "finger pockets." What I really wanted was the finished outer surface exposed in the pocket, and that same surface holding the tools.

    Okay, so turn the whole glove completely inside-out, then roll the "cuff" down over the fingers to expose the openings and, presto! You have a smooth, finished surface presented to the pocket and tools alike.

    It's soft and light, keeps the tools separated, prevents "geek clank" when you walk.

    I have a SAK, a Kershaw Double-Cross, and a small flashlight in there, and nothing gets lint-contaminated and nothing clanks.

    Thank you, Steve, for boxless improvise-thinking.
     
  14. Rupestris

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    Arfin,

    I had the same issue with rattling pockets. I had picked up a camera bag a couple years ago and it came with a separate pouch for batteries and SD/XD cards. The beltloop on the back is velcro at the bottom so it can be put on or removed from a belt without droppin' trou.

    This pic was taken a while ago and the contents have changed a bit but you get the idea.

    MUSK.gif

    It looks like a cell phone or digital camera bag when worn on the belt. Its usually in the daypack mentioned in my first post or in a coat pocket in cooler temps.
     
  15. bensdad

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    Rupestris,
    Is that a smelling salt?
     
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    Bensdad,

    Yep. I've since got rid of it. I had moved a few items from a first aid kit and that fit in the loop so i left it there. I've replaced it with a ferro rod. The smelling salt is back in the first aid kit in the car where it came from.

    I've left the iodine capsule because it can be used to treat water in an emergency.
     
  17. Goblin

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    1. Case 2 blade stag peanut style
    2. Uncle Henry Delrin Trapper
    3. Bic lighter (don't like the smell of Zippo fluid)
    4. LED pen light
    5. Cell phone
    6. CCW

    :)
     
  18. mossberg

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    It sure is. It is my EDC and I'm lovin it!
     
  19. Brian Dale

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    Pocket knife
    House and car keys on a ring
    Spare house and car keys (yes, all the time) on another ring with a mini-light
    Zippo
    Bandana
    Wallet
    Pen, all the time, since about the sixth grade
    Reading glasses - usually in a shirt or jacket pocket

    My wrist watch moves to my belt when I'm going to be working with my hands.
     
  20. jparham

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    I forgot to add- it's not in my pocket, it's on my wrist, but my medical bracelet goes everywhere with me. I mean everywhere- I couldn't get it off my wrist and wouldn't want too if I could. It says my name, that I have an artificial valve, and am taking Coumadin.
     
  21. JShirley

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    Yeah, that last is a must.

    I always have my wallet, a pocket knife, cell phone, and lip balm. I usually also have a water bottle. I often also have a small light.

    If I'm not at school, I'm typically armed, as well. At school, I always have my backpack, which has a large carabiner and small flashlight.

    If I'm in the woods, I have light, fire, sharps, shelter, boomstick, and water and usually at least a little food.

    John
     
  22. Dave Markowitz

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    EDC on my person now:

    Wallet
    Cell phone
    Watch
    Boker Barlow knife
    On a Countycomm A&P mechanic's keyring: Victorinox Rambler, Microcenter 8GB flash drive (holding a TrueCrypt encrypted backup of all my important data, plus other stuff), Countycomm LED light.

    In my laptop bag:

    Small FAK
    Gerber Firecracker LED flash light
    Some spare AA cells
    Photon MicroLight II on one shoulder strap (I work in a highrise in Center City, Philadelphia. I am somewhat paranoid about not having a light source if the SHTF.)
    Victorinox Cybertool 41
    Victorinox SwissTool RS
    Gerber diamond knife sharpener
    Countycomm Technician's screwdriver
    Blackberry
    Water bottle
    Snack bar
    Assorted cables (Ethernet, USB, etc.)
    Pen, lead pencil
    Moleskine notebook
    Small survival kit in a Ziploc including a bandanna, Heatsheet (like a space blanket), lighter, candle, water purification tablets.
    Other assorted junk I should clean out.
     
  23. rcmodel

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    Shirt pocket
    Parker S/S pen, with a Fisher "Space Pen" refill.
    Streamlite Stylus LED penlight.
    3"x5" note card.
    Cigs.

    Right Front Pants:
    Small Swiss Army knife.
    Bic lighter.
    Key chain with front door key, & a sm. dog whistle.
    Loose change.
    Benchmade Axis-Lock 710 McHenery & Williams.

    Left pants.
    Car & house keys.

    Left rear pants.
    Hanky.

    Right rear pants:
    Billfold.

    Very often, a P3AT & two mags somewhere.

    rcmodel
     
  24. Todd A

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    MLK

    I don't like alot of stuff in my pockets.And since you mentioned the MLK I dug out mine which doesn't get much pocket time.

    What was in my pockets today......
    pocketstuff.jpg

    A Kingston marked MLK ,really a joint product of Ulster and Imperial for the war effort.And a Old timer 104OT,wallet and keys.

    The knives change almost daily.My cell stays in the truck,and I smoke so I always have a BIC with me too.
     
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    I have been a very good rebel of late...*snicker*
     
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