Police: Driver Kills Boy Who Threw Egg At Vehicle

[Sportcat]

http://www.thecarolinachannel.com/news/4771051/detail.html

Police: Driver Kills Boy Who Threw Egg At Vehicle

UPDATED: 1:39 pm EDT July 26, 2005

INDIANAPOLIS -- A prank may have cost a boy his life on Indianapolis' west side.

As many as seven teenagers were throwing eggs at cars about 11 p.m. Sunday, according to police.

Marion County, Ind., sheriff's deputies said that after the juveniles hit one motorist in the face, the man drove off before returning with a gun, shooting one 15-year-old boy in the leg and another 17-year-old boy in the stomach.

"The victim that was shot with the non-life-threatening injuries, he actually went to a residence and called us -- called the sheriff's department," Marion County sheriff's Sgt. Michael DeHart said.

DeHart said two other teens "regrouped at some location, became worried about (another teen) they had not heard from, and returned back to the site of the shooting and found him in the bushes."

Brandon Dunson, 15, was dead when his friends found him. The other victim, Michael Dyer, 17, was treated and released.

Investigators are still looking for the shooter. He was described as a white male in his 30s, about 6 feet tall. He was driving a maroon or red late 80s Ford full size pickup truck.

James Patterson was one of the boys involved in the egg-throwing incident.

"I think they should find him (the shooter). I don't know where he is right now, but I hope he regrets what he did because he just shot a minor over some eggs," Patterson said. "He didn't have to take it to the extreme. He could've just called the cops. He didn't have to go home, get a gun and come back and shoot us."

 

[jefnvk]

Well, I don't advocate shooting people because they egged your car, but I bet the others will think twice before acting like idiots in public again.

 

[El Tejon]

No, he didn't have to shoot you, but then you didn't have to throw the eggs, did you?

Too bad the boys did not have proper parents to teach them not to act that way.

 

[Guns_and_Labs]

Hmm, not exactly a "high road" response.

 

[El Tejon]

G&L, not so, this teaches that actions have consequences. The egg throwers know this as does the shooter. I'm not saying that the alleged shooter should not be prosecuted. I'm only repeating that life can be a strict teacher.

Good lessons here for all gun owners: do not act on anger, do not do anything "cute" with your gun, actions have consequences (death, injury to prison).

 

[jsalcedo]

I've been hit with eggs thrown from cars and it sucks.

I could see where an unstable person could come unglued and shoot he egg throwers.

Personally I would call the cops then sue their parents for pain and anguish.

 

[LiquidTension]

Hmm...where was that thread about disparity of force....

 

[Guns_and_Labs]

El Tejon, I was referring to the shooter.

 

[thorn726]

G&L, not so, this teaches that actions have consequences

holy cow. anything to avoid saying this idiot used a gun the WRONG way.

really guys, if an anti were to see this thread, theyd get ammo.

there is no justification for shooting these kids. this was a prank.

another idiot makes gun owners look like they can't handle the responsibility, and now other gun owners saying things to the effect of the kids deserved it?
no way.
a bunch of kids. cripes!
once i threw a little snow chip (not even a ball really) at a jeep with an angry
20 somthing driving- he stopped, yelled, etc.
it really doesnt take mroe than that to scare some kids.
this guy has major issues.
any normal person would either stop and hassle them verbally, or use his hands worst case.
so scared he needs a gun? he shoulda called cops.

 

[CentralTexas]

Wow-

I'm surprised I survived my childhood actually when I see this...
CT

 

[Cesiumsponge]

People have pointed/shot waterguns, airsoft and paintball guns at others. People have thrown rocks. People have tossed bowling balls and big rocks off overpasses which have gotten people killed.

I'm not condoning the shooting here, but the youth (and anyone in general)must realize there are crazies out there who can, and will cause harm to life or limb over something thats trivial to most people. One guy who gets egged might chuckle. The next guy might chase you and beat you with a bat until you're a pancake.

You hear these kinds of stories a few times a year where people pull pranks and get killed or severely injured. Those in itself should be enough to make you think twice.

I was a passenger when someone cut us off and followed us to a grocery store and brandished a black object that might have been a firearm in the parking lot about 25 yards away to threaten us. Nothing happened from that thankfully, but if the other car was bluffing and someone in my position had a gun and was off-the-wall, it could have been a messy situation.

Another time a few friends and I were driving up to Port Angeles in two vehicles with a dozen firearms to go shooting on some land. Some jackass in a riced out Talon on the right of us for absolutely NO REASON accelerated to about 80mpg and pulled their e-brake while cranking their wheel hard and tried to do a 360 or some such crap. He accomplished a 180 and the rear of his car was travelling forwards and towards us...and missed us by inches. The crackhead had the audacity to drive past us, and indicate how close he came to hitting us by holding up his fingers a few inches apart. Some other individuals in our shoes would chase the guy down and probably rough him up a bit, or shoot the kid. We just did a bodycheck, found out everyone was fine, and went shooting.

 

[Rich K]

I got rear ended by a 16 y/o who was drunk.Did very minor damage to my car,destroyed his grille and radiator.Cops were called,so was the kid's father.Turned out it was Dad's car.I filed no charges,but did stay and watch the exchange between father and son.Illuminating to say the least.That would have been a much better solution than the one this fellow came up with.Just my 2 cents.

 

[Alex45ACP]

The kid deserved it. I have no tolerance for morons who damage other people's property

 

[AF_INT1N0]

I would've gone and bought eggs.
Or maybe a gallon of paint.
You can teach a lesson/get revenge without hurting people.

Just my .02

 

[Cesiumsponge]

Or maybe a gallon of paint.

Though if you meet "force" with "more force" by stepping up from eggs to paint, the punks might call the cops and nail you for malicious mischief or some other BS charge. It seems like when you do one-upmanship, the winner loses in the eyes of the police...like the guy with the CCW who happened to one-up the guy who pulled the mystery black object which turned out to be a flashlight.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

There was no justification for this -- shooting is using deadly force (as proven in this case.) You are justified in using deadly force when you have no other option. According to this story, the shooter left and came back with a gun.

This kind of thing makes us all look bad -- and defending this guy makes us look worse.

 

[Frandy]

Vern, I'm with you all the way.

Sorry, Alex but if you really mean it, that a kid who throws eggs deserves to be shot and killed, then I sure hope you don't carry. And if you do carry, I bet your state regs on carrying don't authorize you to kill the kid who pelts you or your car with eggs.

 

[Sindawe]

Marion County, Ind., sheriff's deputies said that after the juveniles hit one motorist in the face, the man drove off before returning with a gun, shooting one 15-year-old boy in the leg and another 17-year-old boy in the stomach.

Striking a driver in the face is a very bad idea, one which could lead to loss of control of the vehicle and serious injury or death to the driver or happless bystanders.

Coming back to shoot the little snotlings, while understandable to my eyes, is an over reaction. Of course, I'm sure the "sport" of throwing things at moving cars will be decidedly less popular in the area for awhile.

 

[Old Dog]

What??!!

Alex, please tell us that you were referring to the post about the kid getting chewed out by his dad ...
Please tell me that you don't really believe that someone who throws an EGG at someone deserves to get killed for it.

The kid deserved it. I have no tolerance for morons who damage other people's property

If you carry a gun and you think like this, well, I have to say that you are someone who should NOT be carrying a gun.

 

[jdkelly]

The kid deserved it.---Alex45

Alex tell us you just said that off the cuff and you don't really mean it, please.


Respectfully,

jdkelly

 

[CannibalCrowley]

The kids didn't deserve it, but it is one of those "Darwin wins" situations. At 15 and 17 they weren't exactly innocent little children and they should've expected something bad to happen as a result of their actions.

A whole lot of things could have happened, they just happened to hit a guy who decided to come back and shoot them instead of one who would've reported their actions to the police and filed charges.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

This was a bad shooting, and the guy who did it will and should serve time.

On the other hand, there have been a couple of cases of little punks going around and shooting people with paintball guns, and taking videos of it.

If I were on the jury, and a man said, "I heard the shot, felt the impact, and what I thought was blood, so I returned fire" -- I'd have to find that guy Not Guilty.

 

[VTKFJoe]

The kid deserved it. I have no tolerance for morons who damage other people's property

Wow you have to be kidding me.

 

[GunGoBoom]

The kid deserved it.

Absolutely not. No one deserves a death sentence, sans judge & jury, for committing malicious mischief (vandalism). You must be a plant here on THR to make us look bad.

What is a little odd to me is that it was the 15 y.o. boy who died, who was only hit in the leg - must have gotten him in the femoral. Sad. He needed a whoopin, but most definitely not a killin'. Like Vern says, the shooter should and will serve time - that's murder - the jury could find manslaughter if he was justified in being angered/provoked, which he was. If I was on the jury, he'd get manslaughter and about 7-10 years.

 

[MikeIsaj]

Throwing eggs at cars is bad. Not bad enough to warrant execution, but bad.

Going home, getting a gun, going back to the scene and gunning down two kids is very bad. Interesting how he was mad enough to do all that but never thought of reporting it to the cops.

The shooter should be found and charged with homicide.

The kid did not deserve to die but, I'm not going to cry for him. He took a chance and lost.