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Polish P64 Range Report

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by telecaster1981, Jul 16, 2007.

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  1. telecaster1981

    telecaster1981 Member

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    Hey All,


    There's a lot of fishy advice floating around out there concerning the Polish P64. A good share of the opinions are negative and I suspect most of those are passed along second or third hand, at best. NO it's NOT a 'true' Makarov. Doesn't look like one. Doesn't handle like one. It's also not a PPK. It's a P64...let's just leave it at that. So, let's get started!

    The same day I put my P64 on layaway at my favorite local shop, I ordered a 17# and 19# Hammer spring as well as a 22# recoil spring from the folks at Wolff in anticipation of a heavy double action pull. I was not disappointed. The P64 does indeed have an extremely heavy DA pull, so expect this if you're in the market for one. Expect an excellent SA pull, though! In fact, I didn't even bother firing the thing before I swapped out the springs. Once installed, the DA pull is acceptable. After one range session, I decided to take some time to stone and polish the sear and hammer engagement surfaces, and the DA pull got much smoother and went from 'acceptable' to 'good' and the SA pull is out of this world!

    On to the range part of this report...

    Using S&B 95gr FMJ at ranges from 7 to 25 yards, the P64 really outdid itself in terms of accuracy! Ten yard groups off a bench (impractical, I know) were all less than 1" and typically one ragged hole! Twenty-five yards from the bench yielded groups typically less than 3". Even shooting offhand, I was able to keep all shots fired in the 'X' ring in the head portion of a torso target at 7 yards. Needless to say I was rather impressed. The icing on the cake is that there were zero malfunctions of any kind after 100 rounds. In fact, even with the heavier 22# recoil spring, the ejected brass ended up ~40 feet away! Although 100 rounds isn't exactly a great yardstick for reliability, most of the guns I have issues with manifest some sort of problem in the first hundred rounds, so I'm giving the P64 a tentative thumbs up in the reliability department.

    At this point, I'm EXTREMELY pleased with my P64 and I highly recommend them to anyone in the market for an accurate and reliable carry piece, regardless of budget. Just don't expect it to be as smooth as a Walther right out of the box, but with a little work and a very few dollars, you can get it in tip top shooting shape!

    Ben

    PS-there will be updates and pictures coming at some point in the future!
     
  2. 115grfmj

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    AH-yup

    Most of there bad press seems to be second hand hear say. I Also bought the wolf 22# recoil spring, as well as the 18# hammer spring. Mine has around 1200rds with zero malfunctions. All steel, great blueing, I get the same in terms of accuracy 7 yds one hole groups (rested:neener:), better yet I can keep all six shots on a paper plate at 50yds....thats right 50...offhand:cool: I also bought a more comfortable set of grips for it from this guy.
    http://dnmars.43i.net/
    Here's mine

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  3. M2 Carbine

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    I liked the P64 so well I bought three.:)
     
  4. 115grfmj

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    Telecaster

    If you want to talk to guys with a lot of firsthand experience, and actual knowledge on the subject cruise over to.....http://p64.proboards67.com/
    :D
     
  5. telecaster1981

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    115grfmj:

    I've been spending a lot of time over there in the last month! If it hadn't been for the folks over there, I probably wouldn't have taken the plunge on the p64 to begin with. They convinced me that this little gun has a LOT of potential!
     
  6. telecaster1981

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    Hey 115grfmj,

    Out of curiosity, did you install the firing pin spring that came with your 22# recoil spring? I haven't yet, but I haven't had any problems with the stock FP spring either...
     
  7. Black Adder LXX

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    I love my P64. It's a good size for pocket carry, and comes off to me as more sturdy than your KelTecs and Bersas. It's not something I want to run 100 rounds a day through, but at $150 I'll take it.

    +1 on the 'unofficial' P64 forum. Those guys are great.

    BTW- did the main spring and recoil spring but 'saved' the smaller spring that came with...
     
  8. 115grfmj

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    Yes I did replace the firing pin spring with the new one that came with it. Not really a big deal, to do.....and wolf told me it's heavier to conteract the increase slide speed, the heavier recoil spring give.

    I also would agree with the comment of not wanting to run 150 rounds thru in a day......but pretty much any pocket pistol is going to be the same. The Dennis grips I put on mine, are thicker and much more ergonomic, that coupled with the heavier recoil spring really took the bite out of it....it's really a *****cat now.
     
  9. Freedom_1st

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    I just put 50 rounds of mfs 95 gr fmj through my new p-64.

    Functioned flawlessly and was quite accurate for a pocket pistol, recoil was a bit much and the double action trigger is almost unusable.

    I plan to change out the springs and hopefully that will help the recoil and double action trigger problem.

    But for $160 it was a good buy.
     
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