Poll on Reload disaster

[rabid wombat]

but not you, your brother did. I’m trying to bust the notation of “I’ll only shoot reloads from 1-2 people and they taught Layne Simpson to reload”

does he still reload? your brother

He was mid to late teens at the time (pre college), and I was half that age. I typically did the grunt work… primer pocket cleaning, case lube, etc… while he operated the Lee Whack a Mole. What I remember - typical load was around 3.7 grains of Bullseye - that leaves a lot of room in a 45 ACP.

He does not reload, but he has the equipment. If he wanted to reload, he would just use my set up. Though I reload, I do a lot with contract remanufacturers / custom manufacturers - time vs money….

 

[Varminterror]

H110 will give you squibs if you don’t treat it right.

I've burned between 5 and 20lbs per year of H110/W296 through magnum revolvers for most of the last 20yrs. It's not so complicated to treat it right.

 

[Varminterror]

Question...has anyone ever tried making a blank to kick out a squib?

I wouldn't call this a good strategy. You're running into an expansion ratio problem where you have some unknown starting capacity and would have to balance a charge to fill the volume with a slow rate, then accelerate the bullet sufficiently to overcome static friction - and we KNOW doing so requires significantly higher pressure than standard operating pressure (as proven by the increase in pressure when using the same load while jamming vs. jumping bullets, and a squib stuck bullet wouldn't be just jammed a few thou into the lands, but have the entire bearing surface seized). Equally, you have the challenge of creating sufficient in-case pressure to obturate the case to instantaneously seal the breech, so you don't get blow back around the case and lose all of your motive pressure, BUT again, you can't have so much pressure to rupture the barrel against that obstruction.

I've pushed bullets out with grease guns, beat them out with rods, but I wouldn't remotely consider using a blank to drive one out.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I wouldn't call this a good strategy. You're running into an expansion ratio problem where you have some unknown starting capacity and would have to balance a charge to fill the volume with a slow rate, then accelerate the bullet sufficiently to overcome static friction - and we KNOW doing so requires significantly higher pressure than standard operating pressure (as proven by the increase in pressure when using the same load while jamming vs. jumping bullets, and a squib stuck bullet wouldn't be just jammed a few thou into the lands, but have the entire bearing surface seized). Equally, you have the challenge of creating sufficient in-case pressure to obturate the case to instantaneously seal the breech, so you don't get blow back around the case and lose all of your motive pressure, BUT again, you can't have so much pressure to rupture the barrel against that obstruction.

I've pushed bullets out with grease guns, beat them out with rods, but I wouldn't remotely consider using a blank to drive one out.

man you write good… don’t tell me your using ChatGTP…?

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Question...has anyone ever tried making a blank to kick out a squib?

Yes. I tried it on a I-J top break .32S&W. It’s kinda useless on a HBWC with the top blown off and the skirt stuck in the forcing cone. I figured the wad would drive it out but nope. I ended up pushing it back into the cylinder enough to get the gun apart then tapped it out from the loading side with a drift from my toolbox.
Nice thing about a top break is it will open up with a jammed cylinder.

 

[splattergun]

No, I've never damaged a gun with my handloads. However, my buddy in high school made a small cast bronze noise-maker cannon in metals shop. He lined the bore with steel pipe, he intended for lead shot. He (we) loaded it with the powder from 3 12ga shells we opened up, and loaded with about half the shot. We took it to a field, lit the fuse and dove for cover behind a dirt pile (which was the only intelligent thing we did that day). It boomed and we saw dirt kick up from the face of the dirt pile. we found only the steel lined barrel and a small piece of the bronze breech.

 

[Walkalong]

man you write good…

They made us learn how in school back in the day......

 

[Walkalong]

And he writes well.......

 

[41 Mag]

Never blown one up or locked the bolt. I have had a primer or six loosen up. I learned early on H and IMR same numbered powders burn different and to note which one was used.

Also learned about temp sensitivity and working up loads in cool weather and finding out what 30+ degrees does for ya. Fun thing about Texas weather, it can be 40 at dawn and 85 at dusk. Makes a big difference with some load combinations.

 

[Varminterror]

man you write good… don’t tell me your using ChatGTP…?

*man,
*well
*me,
*you’re

 

[.45Coltguy]

Look, some of us answered a very basic, simple question the OP asked. If these don't fit the narrative to the local know it all expert on everything here, well, I just don't have an answer.
Most here get it.

 

[Random 8]

I've never caused serious permanent damage to a firearm with reloads, but I have had to do some McGuyver engineering to extract a stuck brass case or unlock a revolver cylinder. On the latter, I still don't know specifically why Blue Dot was dropped from .41 mag data, but I can personally confirm that this was a good idea!

 

[SingleActionAndrew]

You're all telling me you've never straitened the lips on your magazines and wondered where all the parts on the bench came from?

 

[Mark_Mark]

Look, some of us answered a very basic, simple question the OP asked. If these don't fit the narrative to the local know it all expert on everything here, well, I just don't have an answer.
Most here get it.

Yes… it’s answered, I’m not shooting anybody reloads! 5-6% Broke Gun rate! and we are the cream of the reloading crop

 

[Mark_Mark]

You're all telling me you've never straitened the lips on your magazines and wondered where all the parts on the bench came from?

See that on Youtube… ouch

 

[JmacD]

I've pushed bullets out with grease guns

I know a guy that made a jig to thread on his muzzle, popped air powered grease gun on the set up, and put the power to it… well, the bullet stuck in the drywall on the opposite wall of his shop, and the grease splatter looked like a redneck tie dye… so, while its a better plan, some common sense exercised is a fantastic idea

 

[Mark_Mark]

I know a guy that made a jig to thread on his muzzle, popped air powered grease gun on the set up, and put the power to it… well, the bullet stuck in the drywall on the opposite wall of his shop, and the grease splatter looked like a redneck tie dye… so, while its a better plan, some common sense exercised is a fantastic idea

that’s HILARIOUS! guy should have taken a photo

 

[hdwhit]

A week or so ago I celebrated 45 years of reloading. Zero Kabooms. Zero Squibs.

I've got components for another dozen years of reloading. Hopefully, I'll last that long.

 

[MikeInOr]

2. My dad loaded me a big pile of 9mm while on chemotherapy and a ton of them were squibs. I shot these after he had passed and now I weigh every charge, and install the bullet before moving to the next round.

My father was a very intelligent and meticulous man. Chemo therapy really messed with his mental faculties and made routine tasks much more difficult for him. I will never forget the first day he handed me his car keys because he no longer felt safe to drive.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Yes… it’s answered, I’m not shooting anybody reloads! 5-6% Broke Gun rate! and we are the cream of the reloading crop

If that’s really the only question I could have answered it for you a long time ago.
Now here’s a tough question: do you ride in other people’s cars?
A lot more people are killed and injured in cars than shooting reloads. Just some food for thought.

 

[Mountainman2]

I got distracted and did’t put powder in once and stuck a bullet in my Glock. Luck was with me and I realized it did’t sound right. I try very hard not to get distracted again load one complete round at a time

 

[JmacD]

that’s HILARIOUS! guy should have taken a photo

I know a guy that made a jig to thread on his muzzle, popped air powered grease gun on the set up, and put the power to it… well, the bullet stuck in the drywall on the opposite wall of his shop, and the grease splatter looked like a redneck tie dye… so, while its a better plan, some common sense exercised is a fantastic idea

I might add, his shop wasn’t huge, and it just barely stuck in the drywall. It honestly was so close to the breech end from his description(I didn’t look down the barrel) I would have thought a rod might have been a better bet. But he made this jig and had to try it. I’ve wished he had a photo of it to!!!

 

[Varminterror]

Look, some of us answered a very basic, simple question the OP asked. If these don't fit the narrative to the local know it all expert on everything here, well, I just don't have an answer.
Most here get it.

Assuming your whining here is in reference to my post… do you simply not like reading? What “narrative,” specifically, do you feel I’m trying to sell here?

Weak mind and weak heart is what I hear from backhanded, passive aggressive whining like this. It fuels my soul to know I’m not built that way.

 

[Varminterror]

I know a guy that made a jig to thread on his muzzle, popped air powered grease gun on the set up, and put the power to it… well, the bullet stuck in the drywall on the opposite wall of his shop, and the grease splatter looked like a redneck tie dye… so, while its a better plan, some common sense exercised is a fantastic idea

Yup - gotta fill that barrel with grease before you start squeezing, otherwise you’re creating a pressurized air chamber, and all of that energy has to go somewhere if the bullet moves!

 

[Mark_Mark]

If that’s really the only question I could have answered it for you a long time ago.
Now here’s a tough question: do you ride in other people’s cars?
A lot more people are killed and injured in cars than shooting reloads. Just some food for thought.

As a Uber Driver I 100% understood your questions!

But risk can be measured in the Mess around and find out chart! Less messing around, less finding out!