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Poll: SCAR or ACR?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Full Metal Jacket, Nov 10, 2010.

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Do you prefer the FN SCAR or Bushmaster ACR?

Poll closed Dec 10, 2010.
  1. ACR

    20 vote(s)
    18.0%
  2. SCAR

    91 vote(s)
    82.0%
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  1. Full Metal Jacket

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    which one would prefer and why.

    Don't have to own either to vote in this pole, simply have a preference for one over the other if you had the cash :)
     
  2. Silvanus

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    Hard to get a useful opinion for this topic since there are probably few people who've shot both already... But since you said that doesn't matter, I would personally choose the SCAR. Manufactured by a very reputable company that is known for producing excellent quality military weapons, especially military rifles. And the feedback from users so far seems to favor the SCAR.
     
  3. longdayjake

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    Had a chance to mess with the "military" versions of both. I actually liked the ACR more, but then again I am not bothered by the weight.
     
  4. SpeedAKL

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    I've only shot the SCAR and it was friggen awesome. Great trigger for a fighting gun, great controllability under rapid rifle, very low recoil impulse, good ergonomics. I have handled an ACR but not fired it. I thought it's ergonomics were just as good as the SCAR but it was much heavier.

    This one should probably get moved to Rifle Country section...
     
  5. simulatedjim

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    Compared both side by side and the SCAR seems to have a lot more going for it. And don't forget to send your ACR back for the recall. Got 2 P-mags for the trouble.
     
  6. Prion

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    Nice!
     
  7. Glocked-N-Loaded

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    Where's the option for neither? I guess if I was forced into spending disposable income on one or the other I would choose the SCAR.
     
  8. Full Metal Jacket

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    why would i include a "neither" option? i only want info on these two rifles--if you don't want or like either, then don't vote. it's just that simple ;)
     
  9. Z-Michigan

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    SCAR, based on FN quality and military testing.

    I've handled the SCAR and both handled and shot the ACR, FWIW. The ACR does have some things going for it, but I don't think it's nearly as field-ready as the SCAR, and the current asking price is laugh out loud funny.
     
  10. ny32182

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    SCAR; it will hold its value better than a Bushmaster, has been through at least some level of military trials, and feels MUCH lighter when handled side by side. The SCAR's numbers don't do it justice as far as how light it feels.

    However, I think the ACR is more likely to have the design capabilities of alternate barrels and calibers realized.
     
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    1. It's made by FNH
    2. It has a .308 chambering
    3. It's made by FNH
     
  12. MTMilitiaman

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    SCAR 17S...why would I ever pack an 8.5 pound poodle shooter made by Shrubmaster when I can carry an 8.5 pound 7.62 made by a real weapons manufacture?
     
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    I haven't seen or handled either one so I'm not commenting, but man 'o man it seems like there's nothing but hate for the Bushmaster. Apparently their products suck.
     
  14. Zombiphobia

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    I chose the SCAR. I dunno why. It looks awesome, and is made by a company who makes some very nice military weapons. Also, it comes in 3 different chamberings. I dunno about the Bushmaster ACR. I've never fired any weapons by Bushmaster.
     
  15. Balrog

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    I guess most people here are basing their opinions on their experience with these guns, but I wonder if it is real life or Call of Duty?
     
  16. Carter

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    Other-XCR

    but out of the choices the SCAR. Its battle proven, lighter, and has FN's reputation behind it.
     
  17. MTMilitiaman

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    Maybe not suck...the one Bushmaster AR-15 I've shot did okay.

    But lets not confuse Bushmaster with FN. FN is among the finest weapons manufactures in the world, already produces about 3/4 of the firearms our own military uses, and has been testing the SCAR with our military already for almost a decade.

    I was more interested in the ACR before it was taken over by Remington and Bushmaster. The original concept from Magpul was intriguing, and that was back before published figures had it weighing as much as a milled receiver AK. People don't expect their poodle shooters to weigh that much, esp when they are made largely out of plastic. Let's face it--it doesn't matter what hard rock anthem you put on your site's Flash video or what ninja'd operators you have show the rifle off--your market is pretty small with a $2800 MSRP for the basic, no frills carbine, and it only gets smaller when that carbine is over eight pounds. People can get a LMT MRP with or without the piston in 5.56 or 6.8 SPC for hundreds less and save over a pound in weight with proven technology from an established company that actually supplies fighting militaries and still retains the barrel change capability of the ACR. Or they can still spend hundreds less and get an XCR, again, much more tested, weighs less, quick change barrel, caliber conversions already on the market, tons of stock options...

    Then they go and shoot themselves in the foot with a recall and people's skepticism about the price and quality of the rifle seems justified, because, well, it is.

    Comparatively, the SCAR is a more proven design from a more reputable company. You can roll with the SCAR-H (17S) and get a 7.62mm carbine with a published weight of only 8 pounds--several ounces less than any version of the ACR--and has a lower MSRP.

    The math does itself. The ACR really has very little going for it comparatively.
     
  18. Full Metal Jacket

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    well, the prices of these two guns keeps them out of most folks hands. so i assume most people are choosing one or the other based on what they've read, which is ok. i haven't fired (and don't own) either one myself :)
     
  19. Full Metal Jacket

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    i haven't made up my mind. i do like FN's track record with the scar of course, but i 'm not crazy about the reciprocating forward bolt handle that can smack you in the thumb. at least bushmaster had enough sense to make theirs non-reciprocating.

    is it a deal breaker? probably not. :)
     
  20. GunTech

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    Shot the SCAR but only handled the ACR. I like the feel of the latter, and was sad to see the initial teething problems and recall. The SCAR has more time in the field but I haven't completely given up on the ACR. Too bad it was Bushmaster that took over production.

    If they fix the ACR and drop the price, which they will probably need to after all the bad press, I'll give it a look. Otherwise neither. The SCAR and the ACR are not worth the current asking price. Neither is twice the rifle a well built AR is. And the the people I know that own them have them as much for bragging rights as anything else.
     
  21. Full Metal Jacket

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    agreed.
     
  22. Zerodefect

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    I'm waiting to see which one the aftermarket adopts.

    I'd have to lean towards the mil-spec Remington ACR. But the civvy Bushmaster ACR lacks the features I want.

    I voted ACR because the SCAR's foregrip is not long enough to fit me. I think the ACR has different available foregrips.

    Both need speedier safety levers. I turn my safety on and off 10,000 times during a 3 day class.

    I think a properly modded AR works better still. I was excited about the Magpul Masada concept, but the ACR is kinda "meh". For that kind of cash I can get a LMT .308.
     
  23. Bartholomew Roberts

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    I've handled both but shot neither. I really like the ACR's layout for controls - specifically the longer handguard and sight position, the pistol grip, the stock and the ACR charging handle.

    Unfortunately, the ACR was noticeably heavier and nose heavy compared to the SCAR.

    Also, the SCAR has had extensive testing by independent sources/military under extreme conditions for six years now. It is made by FN who has an outstanding reputation in the area of military weaponry. The ACR hasn't had anywhere near that kind of scrutiny and is made by Bushmaster/Remington.

    At the end of the day, I'd rather have an 8lb SCAR heavy in .308 with a 5.56 conversion kit than an 8.5lb ACR.
     
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    Has the ACR gone through any military trials?
     
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    I really want to love the ACR. It came so close to being so good. Disappointing.

    SCAR it is.
     
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