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Poll: What is the next front in the RTKABA struggle?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by StrikeFire83, Aug 15, 2006.

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What is the next front in the RTKABA struggle?

  1. Curtailing/Revoking funding for the United Nations

    12 vote(s)
    12.1%
  2. Broad spectrum legalization of full auto weapons

    10 vote(s)
    10.1%
  3. A new constitutional amendment banning firearms registration

    6 vote(s)
    6.1%
  4. A national concealed carry law

    55 vote(s)
    55.6%
  5. OTHER (please specify)

    16 vote(s)
    16.2%
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  1. StrikeFire83

    StrikeFire83 Member

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    We have won some great victories in the past several years, the repeal of the national “Assault” weapons ban and the legal concealed carry of handguns has swept through a great many states.

    I was just wondering what yall think the next great front is in the greater firearms struggle in this country.
     
  2. Autolycus

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    We need national CCW. THis way we can get more states to become shall issue gaining more gun rights supporters. Then we can move on to other things.
     
  3. sm

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    I voted "other".

    While I like your poll and the choices given - the biggest front we continually face is NOT dividing ourselves when working toward common goals.
     
  4. SuperNaut

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    IMHO the full-auto ship has sailed, disappeared over the horizon, and dumped its septic tanks.

    The national CCW seems most logical. That of course means that California will never reciprocate.
     
  5. StrikeFire83

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    I would tend to agree with you. I try and get along with everybody save the ultra frindge white supremacist/militia types.

    Admittedly, this is the option that I myself care about the least, but I know there are those who are very passionate about it.

    Why do you think the ship has sailed though?
     
  6. MrTuffPaws

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    AWB sunsetted and was not repealed.
     
  7. Finch

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    I don't know about this. I'm not sure if I want the federal government regulating ccw laws. Unless if was pure full faith and credit, like drivers licenses, I would/could not support a national CCW.

    In my opinion, the UN is the greatest threat to not only our right to own firearms, but our freedom in general.
     
  8. SuperNaut

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    IMHO, it is the most emotionally-charged and ideologically laden option on a firearm. I can have a perfectly rational conversation with an anti; right up until I mention full-auto. Then it all goes out the window. There are articles of faith among all philosophies, but among the anti-gun crowd full-auto is the cause of all misery and suffering for humans. Right up there with land mines and transfat.
     
  9. wdlsguy

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    A repeal of 18 USC 922(o) [ban on post-1986 machineguns for mere citizens] would be a huge step in the right direction.
     
  10. FeebMaster

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    Repeal? The law had a built in sunset, it wasn't repealed.

    How about an acutal repeal of a gun law or even easier an executive order to remove one of the previous anti-gun executive orders?
     
  11. StrikeFire83

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    ^ Thanks, but MrTuffPaws already pointed that out.

    I guess I was referring to the fact that the AWB is no longer in exinstence, and nobody was willing to re-sign it.

    It looks like legalized Concealed Carry is winning! Keep them coming.
     
  12. jlbraun

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    Other.

    Repeal of section 922(o) of the FOPA, the part that closes the NFA registry.
     
  13. Brett Bellmore

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    Repeal of the "sporting purpose" test. Since "sport" is clearly not the only legitimate reason to own a gun, it should have nothing to do with which guns we can own or import.
     
  14. lee n. field

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    What's do-able? National CCW is more achievable than any of the other worthy causes you list.

    Hmmm. Embargo Chicago until Illinois sees the light?
     
  15. limbaughfan

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    I say our next big fight will be with antigun legislation,not progun legislation.
     
  16. progunner1957

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    IMHO, we may be at present seeing our right to arms in better condition than they will be in the future. This may be our high point.

    Why? The American Sheeple may well be set to return the socialists/Democrats to power in this November's election; they may well be set to hand the White House to them in 2008. While it is not a done deal due to "unforseen events," it is nonetheless very possible.

    If either of these events comes to pass - especially if The Sheeple hand the White House to the socialists/Democrats in 2008 with a S/D majority in the House and the Senate - the "S" will "HTF."

    Of course, there is hope - if we can get gun owners to stop sleeping with the enemy (i.e., voting for antigun bigot scumbags).

    See the last line of my signature for clarification.
     
  17. stevelyn

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    Strip the "Sporting Purposes" clause from GCA '68.

    "Sporting Purposes" is subjective and arbitrary and is open to whatever interpretation the current JBTIC at BATFEces says it is.:barf: :fire:

    Getting rid of "sporting purposes" would automatically void a lot of restrictions currently in place such as the Bush I import ban, import restrictions on certain handguns and likely voiding the '86 MG freeze in FOPA.

    I'm with Finch on national CCW. No fedlaw governing concealed carry, unless it's strictly limited to forcing Marxist states into recognizing state issued CHLs under the "full faith and credit" clause of the Constitution.
     
  18. hoppinglark

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    That's exactly what we need
    I can drive my car from Miami to Seattle with my Florida Driver's License,
    but can not carry my pistol on the same trip with my Florida CCW.
     
  19. knoxx45

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    It is going to mean...

    Keeping the anti's out of office in the next election. Bush, weather you like him or not, has left a sour taste in alot of mouths, and we have to stop the "knee-jerk" reaction of voting out all those associated with him.

    The other thing that we MUST do, is to put ECONOMIC pressure on companies who support the anti's. That will mean not only a boycot on their products, but also informing them of the reason why we are not buying their goods/ services. You see, anti's can get a lot of attention because they mostly comprise the segments of society that are either the acidemic types, students, or the unemployed, all of which do not hold the jobs that most of us law abiding citizens do. I know that if most of us were to just leave work to protest anti gun laws or rally in support of a pro-gun canidate or politician, we would not have a job to go back to. That's why we need to hit'em where it hurts the most, with the best punch we have. That means hitting them in the wallet. Gun owners as a social class are made up mostly of middle to upper middle class. That is the bulk of most companies source of revenue. If we stopped buying their goods, and let them know why we are not buying from them, we can make a difference. If they stop giving groups like hand gun control inc money, then they cant pay for as much advertising, cant pay for the lobbyists... etc...etc.

    Together we are powerful. Together, we have a voice. If we stick together we can force a change.

    THINK ABOUT IT!

    Knoxx
     
  20. stevelyn

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    :scrutiny: I guess you didn't hear Bush:barf: say he was willing to sign it when asked?:scrutiny:

    The only reason he didn't was because it didn't land on his desk. :fire:
     
  21. StrikeFire83

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    I dislike Bush and the current Republican party ALMOST as much as I dislike the Democrats and the current Democratic party.

    There is no mainstream political party that represents my views.
     
  22. ConstitutionCowboy

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    I Voted Other

    I would propose legislative and legal actions to repeal unconstitutional law, starting with the 1934 NFA. We do not need any more patchwork exceptions to the existing unconstitutional law, because all those exceptions do is entrench the existing unconstitutional law.

    Get rid of the old. Therein lies the problem.

    Woody

    "Revolution is the Right of the People to preserve or restore Freedom. Those vested with power should never deprive the People the means, for it may compel such recourse." B.E.Wood
     
  23. lacoochee

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    I voted Other

    Repealing the 1986 no new machine guns law should be the next law to go away.
     
  24. Zundfolge

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    I'd say thats not true ... its a long way off, but I do believe that within the next decade we could see suppressors de-regulated and maybe the NFA registry reopened (and if we're real lucky the $200 tax stamp lowered).

    Incrementalism is how we got here and its how we're going to get back.
     
  25. jeepmor

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    This is tough

    1. National CCW would be nice, but the Feds would screw it up like everything else they touch, or make it painfully bureaucratic. I suspect we'd be in a national database and everytime you boarded a plane or entered a government building with visual recognition cameras, that it would pop up with your name, address, record and of course, you CCW status would be on there too, opening you up to much greater scrutiny for simply being a permit holder.

    2. The 2nd Amendment does state we, as citizens, should be able to bear any arms the Armed Forces can....which we cannot without piles of paperwork and clean records. Not that I think everyone should own a machine gun, but it's a right we should have since the armies that will be oppressing us most certainly will.

    3. I don't follow the letter of the law enough to argue these points with any education level beyond what I've read here.

    I think national CCW embracement by all states would go a long way in reducing crime everywhere in this nation. Like they say, An armed society is a polite society.

    Oregon's CCW is roughly at 3-4%. Which means 30 or 40 in every thousand are packing a pistol. I really like this premise and wish there was some way to communicate it effectively to the general populous without all the big city libtards overreacting. Something like, "4 of every 100 people in this city is carrying a pistol to protect themselves, join them to insure a safer crime free community together."

    jeepmor
     
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