Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Obturation, Mar 21, 2022.
Thank you. This is the information I was looking for. I have been leaning heavily to the 44 and so now I am voting for the 44 Mag/Special. Besides it reminds me of one of my favorite songs:
I could write poetry about the 45 colt. I hand load and cast my own bullets both hot and mild. I hunt with it and have put deer and hogs in the freezer. The only round I’ve shot more with is 45 acp.
I don’t have a 454 casull. But, something tells me that will soon change.
Great post. I enjoyed reading the responses.
For me personally, I shoot the 41 and 44 magnum (and Specials in my Magnums), 45 Colt, 480/475, and 500 JRH. I have a couple of “specialized” handgun-short case rounds for my Encore that are wildcats Gary Reeder builds, but I don’t really consider those daily shooters.
That said, I’d probably pick the 44M each day of the week and the 45C on the weekends. The 480/475 and 500 JRH are my holiday shooters.
I tend to think of each in terms of balance point of bullet weight. There really isn’t anything more that you can achieve above and beyond ~1200 FPS, IMO. You aren’t generally uncomfortable shooting at 1200fps, and the trajectory is good for sensible shots and there is ample penetration at that level. Now I know you can go wilder than 1200 in these calibers, but why? I’ve always adhered to the philosophy that if you have to “lean” on the caliber, you should probably just step up in caliber. Case in point …. 5 shot 45s/454 Casull. It really can’t accomplish anything more than a six shot 45, so go 480/475 I say.
And along those lines, I’d have to say the 44 does 97% what the 45 does, with less powder and a good overlay in bullet weights (240-320 and 250-350). I believe a good 44 can take any game in North America. I also sense that when it comes to components, it’s easier to score 44 than 45, but I acknowledge that may be wrong. Just what I’ve observed and decided over the years.
I agree Mike, I have a stainless S&W mountain gun in 41 magnum. I handload for it and I find myself taking it along on backcountry trips instead of my much heavier Ruger SRH .454. Much handier and not lacking in power.
The .44 Magnum revolver is, or has been up until lately, a robust and heavy revolver, to contain the pressure and recoil of the magnum cartridge. The .44 Special revolver, typified by a Colt SAA sized revolver, is noticeably smaller and more svelte in the hand. While side-by-side comparisons show they look pretty much the same size, the hand knows better. Heft the two and one will notice a difference in the heft and balance. The Special revolver is just a more relaxed and friendly gun to handle.
Ruger New Model Flat Top, .44 Special:
Ruger Three Screw Blackhawk, an ex-.357 Magnum:
Colt New Frontier, .44 Special:
44 from mild to wild.
I also have a Dan Wesson .41Magnum, a Monson gun.
Absolutely terrific revolver.
its a Colt!
I have a couple 45C, a couple 44Mag, a 500Mag, 357Mag, 10mm, and 38-40. The 38-40 intrigues me the most. Factory loads are powderpuffs. I would like to see what a 38-40 could do when hot rodded in a modern material built pistol. Same bullets as 10mm but quite a bit more powder capacity.
Besides, in a tight societal situation I might be able to trade it for other goods. Can't hurt, good investment (if inflation keeps going and it looks like it will), and it looks nice on the shelf.
180s at 1800 FPS!!! I knew the ol girl had potential. Sounds a lot like the newer 357/44 Bain & Davis.
Loads from mild to wild are proven and easy to find & there's no shortage of tried and true bullets for the .44 with proven track records.
Lastly, a Smith, Ruger et. al. revolver has enough weight to mitigate the .44's considerable recoil...and will give accuracy for hunting purposes that is attainable, with some dedicated practice, for the average shooter.
Keith once said that a good 240 gr LSWC (of his design of course) galloping along at a muzzle velocity of 1200 fps, is all you'll generally need when a six-gun is all you have....I agree. Best Regards, Rod
I would like to try a 45 and the 454 also intrigues me, but having never shot either one I’ll have to stick with my SBH 44 mag until proven otherwise.
That said I’m really a 357 mag man.
For sporadic shooter, I would say 44 Magnum or 45 Colt, especially second one as 45 Colt/45 ACP combo, will do it.
For handgun hunter, IMO 480 Ruger is the way to go. There is no substitute for caliber and bullet weight. As a matter of fact, 50 JRH is even better, but, in reality, those guns are scarce. Yes, I am aware of revolvers made by Magnum Research, but seems to me that they didn't sell too many. Apparently, they are very well made revolvers, but there is something awkward in their design that didn't make shooters running. In other words, until Ruger makes Bisley chambered in 50 JRH, this round will remain rather exotic proposal.
The existence of dual-cylinder revolvers, from Ruger, and, I think, other makers/‘smiths, allows the use of .45 ACP and .45 Colt, in the same weapon. That adds some weight toward .45 Colt being “ideal.”
There is no question that I have determined that .45 Colt is closest to ideal, for my personal use case. I have several single-action revolvers, all .45 Colt, with one having a additional .45 ACP cylinder. I have a Ruger SRH Alaskan .454./45 snub-gun, and we have hers-and-his Winchester 94AE Trapper carbines. I actually carry .45 Colt revolvers, some of the time. (Yes, single action, .45 Colt, for concealed carry.)
Depends on your perspective, I guess.
My 2 3/4" Lew Horton model 29 (and the 4" 329 is good as well). These are the best .44 Mag SD revolvers I have but they are not my carry pieces:
629 Trail Boss and a 629 PC for trail carry:
629 PC Hunter with Burris Scope:
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