Poll: Which option do you think owners of braced pistols will choose?

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Which option do you think owners of braced pistols will choose?

Poll closed Oct 5, 2022.
  1. Remove the brace

    25 vote(s)
    32.9%
  2. Change out the barrel for a 16" one

    8 vote(s)
    10.5%
  3. Fill out the ATF form and worksheet and send the photos

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  4. Never mind the "amnesty", declare it an SBR, file the form and pay the $200

    2 vote(s)
    2.6%
  5. Ignore the new rules

    40 vote(s)
    52.6%
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  1. old lady new shooter

    old lady new shooter Member

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    We kind of know what the options are, barring a winning lawsuit banning ATF from carrying out their plan before its supposed effective date. I'm curious to know what folks here think most owners will choose to do.

    Would also be interesting to see people's rationales for each choice, if you care to share them. :)
     
  2. rust collector
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    I would likely remove the brace. The gun is a pistol, and if I decide to make it an SBR I would certainly go for a real stock rather than an arm brace.
     
  3. Rule3

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    Has the ATF made a "decision" yet??

    When the firearm was purchased it was a pistol
    When the brace was purchased it was legal and even had the offical letter from the ATF

    The firearm is still a pistol

    Is there a rule change on the angled fore arm grips? Are they going to be forgiven??

    So tired of all this nonsense. Just like the AK BS and muzzle devices, hand guards, x number of US parts etc etc/
     
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  4. DustyGmt

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    I'll probably just pull the brace off my 10.5" and it will be a stupid pistol and for my 11.5 I'll just try to find an XM177 style flash hider that's 4.5" long and pin/weld it on there. That's about the best option for me I think. It's all so dumb. I'll see about maybe trying to find aluminum because the whole point of the braced pistol was to give my small wife a more weildy AR to be as light as possible
     
  5. captain awesome

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    I agree. It's all ridiculous. Every last bit of it. It's a shame Americans (or anyone for that matter) have to put up with this BS
     
  6. tarosean

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    Will all depend on what happens. I don’t think a magic 8 ball can tell us yet..

    I have I gun that will fall under the rule. If I can get a free stamp and put a real stock on it. I am game

    if not I will remove the brace.
     
  7. N555

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    A large portion people will effectively ignore it because they never heard of the NFA.
     
  8. berettaprofessor

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    I can't pick just one....because I'll do different things with the several I own.
     
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  9. CoalCrackerAl

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    My brother has one something like this. His buddy built it. He said it's registered as a pistol. Would it be affected ?
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  10. citizenconn

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    Well, those of us old enough to remember those revered NFA greats like George Blanda, Billy Cannon and Don Maynard....wait that was the AFL, not the NFA. Dang acronyms.

    Has the NFA had any greats of note? Maybe this recent article from the NRAs Institute of Legislative Action will shed some light on that. Here is the last paragraph of the article for those who aren't interested in clicking the link and reading the entire article:

    "If ATF truly wants to burnish its image, the agency might try ditching this ham-fisted public relations campaign and going after those who misuse firearms to commit violent crime rather than concocting new administrative gun controls and targeting well-meaning gun owners and FFLs over technical violations."

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/20220801/busting-atfs-myth-busting
     
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  11. N555

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    The ATF appears to be more interested in making law abiding people into criminals than going after actual hardened and dangerous criminals.
     
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  12. Mark_Mark
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    This survey is suspicious!

    AFT sponsored???

    I only have these 22A7AA83-0C13-4F7A-AD9E-AFD19F46F358.jpeg
     
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  13. PWC

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    You left out "Drop it in the lake"
     
  14. old lady new shooter

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    <ggg>
     
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  15. old lady new shooter

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    I take it that screws onto the buffer tube after removing the brace? What is it called?
     
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    IDK … it’s a plain buffer tub, was cool in the 90’s, I’m bringing it back!

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  17. old lady new shooter

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    "buffer tub", got it. Thanks! :)
     
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    I think the question was about owners in general, not the individuals here specifically, at least that's how I understood it. I don't own any of the "pistols" in question, so it doesn't directly effect me. I just answered what I figured most would do.
     
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  19. P Flados

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    My son got me into braced 300 BO ARs. All of our stuff, we assembled ourselves. One of them I re-configured to match the proposed rules, but did not like the result. I did get one 16" barrel. Bare buffer tube or the slip on foam sleeve might be used.

    I am worry that they might "stand firm" and declare that the lower for any gun with a non compliant configuration was defacto a rifle needing a stamp and that removing the brace is not a legal resolution. If so, I can "fix" my situation by getting new lowers for anything we want to assemble into a pistol configuration. For guns other than ARs, such a solution may not be practical at all.

    If the rule does get issued I really hope it will have better guidance and options for existing owners. Declaring "amnesty" to the extent that any gun sold as a pistol can be "reconfigured" into an acceptable pistol would be a start.
     
  20. old lady new shooter

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    The original convoluted documentation did say that removing the brace would be acceptable.
     
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  21. berettaprofessor

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    Yes, most definitely. It would be an SBR and need registration under the proposed rule.
     
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  22. DustyGmt

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    So is a non contoured buffer tube required or can I just pull the brace off my existing standard tube and be compliant? The more I ask the more irritated I get. People qho bought these things prior to all this should be left the hell alone, that's the least they could do.... make millions of people go backwards, smh
     
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  24. Remington1911

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    Personally I don't think this will be like the "machine gun" deal of way back....but I think people back then did not trust .gov like they do now.
     
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  25. N555

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    Probably. It looks like they are going to allow pistol owners to throw 16+ barrel on there and make it a rifle.
    It's looks like there's no going back to the 1990s and early 2000s slick tube.
    It sounds like they are trying to say every AR pistol ever, sold with or without a brace is an SBR. Plus about 30 million other non AR platform pistols.
    Oh and the ATF has a searchable gun transaction data base with over 900 million transaction records. So they will find people who have them.
     
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