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Poll: Who does the America Bill of Rights apply?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by ServiceSoon, May 1, 2008.

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Who does the American Bill of Rights apply to?

  1. Americans only

    64.3%
  2. Foreigners

    14.3%
  3. Anybody that is man enough to wrestle a bear deserves the bears arms.

    14.3%
  4. Americans & their allies.

    7.1%
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  1. ServiceSoon

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    Before this thread was closed because it didn't contain any firearms content, a poster made this comment
    I derived from that comment that this person doesn't think the American Bill of Rights applies to foreigners. I am only guessing and hope that the person making that comment will participate in this thread and explain their position. This made me wonder if everybody here thinks the BOR, specifically the right to bear arms, applies to Americans or all of earths homo sapiens.
     
  2. ServiceSoon

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    The choice "Foreigners" should actually read "Everybody."
     
  3. Hoppy590

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    americans an "allies"

    by allies i mean people entering/in the US on some form of Visa or other legal means. whether your my family, friends, or the new guy at work, once your invited into my house your all equal. who can show up unannounced is a who another list.
     
  4. ServiceSoon

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    I take the BOR as so much more. I mean these are enumerated g-d given rights. Surely you do not have to be an American or an allie of America to be given those rights?
     
  5. daniel1113

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    The Bill of Rights outlines many of the rights that we believe to be the most essential. As such, it should apply to any law-abiding person under U.S. jurisdiction. It should have nothing to do with citizenship.

    Denying these basic rights to a law-abiding person on American soil because he/she is not a citizen is wrong, but it happens all the time.
     
  6. mekender

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    and by americans i define those born on american soil and descended from american citizens as per the 14th amendment

    foreign nationals are not subject to the jurisdiction of the united states unless they commit a crime on its soil
     
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    I agree with ServiceSoon. These are rights granted by the creator of everyone therefore in my book they should apply to everyone. Illegal alien, legal alien, or space alien it does not matter to me.
     
  8. Sergeant Sabre

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    I take the comment to mean that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy when crossing international boundaries. Thus, the 4th Amendment does not apply.
     
  9. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

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    this thread isn't anymore on topic then the other one. Here are the rules for Legal:

    From this thread which is stickied at the top of the forum:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=297091

    If you follow these simple guidelines when starting threads, they won't be closed for being off topic.

    Jeff
     
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