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Polymer pistol snaps at handle during fall.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by FireInCairo, Aug 15, 2012.

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  1. FireInCairo

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  2. Thompsoncustom

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    polymer pistol have there place but you have to remember that there still plastic.
     
  3. Ash

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    Wouldn't have happened with a metal-framed pistol. It's a pretty unlikely thing to happen all the same though.
     
  4. glove

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    Should a had a Glock.:)
     
  5. Skylerbone

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    Yes we all know Glocks are indestructible, infallible and love being run full of dirt sans lubrication.

    Sometimes 4-wheeling accidents involve more than a 3 foot tumble to the ground. Witness my Winchester Model 70 vs. Yamaha Rhino vs. tree:

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  6. jmr40

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    A steel framed gun would have done better, but aluminum alloy would have likely been ruined just the same. While it might not have broken, it would likely have been deformed enough to be unusable.
     
  7. mgmorden

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    The steel framed gun might have bent too. All a matter of the stresses. You see the same with bicycles. On some high class bikes carbon fiber forks have become a major thing. They're lighter than aluminum and stronger than steel. Thing is, while its stronger, when carbon fiber fails, it really, really fails. Where a metal fork would bend at a certain point the carbon fiber once it reaches its limit it just shatters. Plastic fails similarly.
     
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    A metal frame, either steel or aluminum would probably have been warped to the point of being not useable.

    Interesting though...a "SNAP" failure vs. "Ka-Boom!"
     
  9. Weevil

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    Meh....HKs are overrated and overpriced get a Glock.
     
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    Crazy. I would think that any handgun would have suffered serious damage from that kind of fall.

    I own both and find the HK to be well worth the extra dollars. Reliable AND accurate.
     
  11. Dr.Rob

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    Ouch. I flipped a three wheeler or two several times wearing an all stell gun and the worst I did was knock the front sight loose. That had to be one heck of a crash.

    FYI there is NOTHING around Lordsburg.
     
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    Spit and polish and a 1911 would be good as new and you could plant a decent crop in the furrow it had ploughed...
     
  13. The Man With No Name

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    1. Should have bought a Glock? Probably right. :)
    2. HK's are overrated? I agree. I've owned quite a few and overrated by most is a statement I'd agree with but the same could be said of many guns makes. Have you priced a Sig lately? Any Ruger semi? Benelli shotguns?
    3. Without knowing what kind of damage he took and the particulars who can really say what their particular favorite would have taken in damage. No gun is indestructible.
     
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    It's because he was using a serpa holster. We all know the problems they cause. A lot of your big name gun schools forbid them for that reason.:rolleyes:

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    I love steel framed guns as much as anybody, but I don't really think this is fair guys.

    First, this is not just a fall. When I read the thread title, i thought a gun fell off a table or something and broke. This was a four wheeling accident that sent a man to the hospital.

    Second, BPAs carry lots of stuff on their belts, like cops. Who knows if the gun hit a rock on one side when he landed, and a baton or cuffs or some other hard thing directly on the other side of the grip causing an extreme amount of force and hard-on-hard contact.

    Third, it could very well be that while the gun broke it absorbed energy that otherwise would have been transferred into the officer's body had be been carrying a metal framed gun. For all we know, this saved him from worse injury and is the reason why his hospital stay was short.

    Fourth, as some others pointed out, I have no idea if a steel gun would have come through unscathed either.
     
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    I agree Fog... I would rather a clean snap and KNOW its broke, than a frame bend you can't see and not know it, then later have a weapon that don't work correctly when I need it.
     
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    The frame was designed to absorb energy and snap like that, in that kind of fall, in order to save the bone of the guy whose bone caused the frame to snap. Better to snap a frame than a bone! :cool:

    All modern polymer-framed handguns are subjected to the "rolled-over-all-terrain-vehicle test." :rolleyes:
     
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    Is it possible some plastics used in gun maunfacturing are more prone to cracking than those used in other makes? I seem to recall some extreme tests, like throwning a Glock from an airplane at 500 feet, and having it still intact. Maybe Glocks and HK's ARE different.
     
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    Polymer framed pistols have a lot of positives , that's one of the negatives.

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    And the real Moral of this story,,,,
    ALWAYS carry a back up gun!
     
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    My Winchester was tucked away in a Kolpin scabbard (bolted to the rollcage) while traversing a beaverdam. As it was not entirely frozen and there was a large pool to the right the guide steered left. A small line of trees bordered that side, the stock was about 3" wide of the rollcage and it caught. It was my back-up and I took a moose later that week with my 700.

    My replacement stock finally arrived last week and I'm nearly finished fitting it. It is walnut and I guarantee it would not have survived that accident. Had my 700 been in that scabbard with its HS Precision stock I may have been minus a rifle.
     
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    I'd be ready for this, $40 and I can buy a replacement grip frame for my Beretta Nano, haha.

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  24. coolluke01

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    Now that's a pocket pistol!
     
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    Onmilo, good point. A spare magazine wouldn't fix this malfunction.
     
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