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Polymer Pistols - Comfortable Grips?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Jaywalker, Mar 18, 2013.

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  1. 45_auto

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    1) Glock - most people instinctively point naturally with it
    2) S&W M&P - not too far behind Glock
    3) Walther - trying to catch up
    4) HK - not even in the ballpark yet
     
  2. guyfromohio

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    I've never shot the M&P series.


    That said:

    CZ P07 Duty is wonderful!
    Gen 4 G19 is 2nd
    XDm comfortable 3rd
    XD comfortable 4th
    Gen 3 Glocks distant 5th
     
  3. callenlee

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    I second the opinion on the cz p01. I know you have asked about poly but the cz is pretty light. I went shooting with friends a while back. I brought the cz, they brought glocks. I thought the cz weighed about the same if not maybe a shade less (i don't know the exact weights so it could have just been me). I have to say that the ergos and trigger on the cz felt far better than the glocks. I don't think familiarity played much of a role as it was only the second time I've fired the cz and was the first time I shot a glock.
     
  4. HKGuns

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    Say what? Are you trying to lose all credibility?
     
  5. Fishbed77

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    Walther trying to catch up? HAHAHA - Glock fanboi-ism at its best.

    Walther pioneered the concept of a finely-tuned and ergonomic polymer grip design with the first-gen P99 way back in the mid-90s, largely as a reaction to how crudely-implemented ergonomics were with the first Glocks. Replaceable backstraps on a service pistol made their first appearance on the P99.

    The P99 predated by many years the M&P pistols and the HK P30 (which was content to basically clone the grip design of the P99). Even Glock tried to half-heartedly copy Walther by adding (somewhat poorly-implemented) replaceable backstraps to their Gen 4 pistols.


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  6. Jaywalker

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    Hmm. I'd say that anyone who thinks the Glock's grip is comfortable has hands of a different shape than mine. I don't doubt a lot of folks think this, but it isn't for me.

    As for the CZ - I like it very much and have considered a CZ-75B Compact, once they're available again. Unless I misunderstand something, though, the CZ hammer-drop models have a trigger reach similar to those of the CZ-75 in DA mode - that is, much too long for my fingers. As I mentioned to blackrussian earlier, I can make my fingers stronger, but I can't make them longer.

    Where I'm headed on this venture is poly striker-fired with a comfortable grip, not necessarily a natural pointer (My Browning tends to point a little low for me and I'm okay with that.) If I don't like it I can always sell it.
     
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  7. rvanpelt

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    Rubber sleeves have helped me.

    I have added rubber sleeves to most of my handguns to eliminate sore hands, improve accuracy, and to reduce slickness. Glock 36 gen 2 Hogue sleeve, Glock 26 gen 3 ordinary thin bicycle inner tube, Kahr CW9 puncture proof (thick) bicycle inner tube and Smith and Wesson 40 VE Sigma Uncle Mike sleeve. My Ruger SR 22 came with 2 rubber sleeves. Hope this helps. :)
    Rod van Pelt
     
  8. Billy Shears

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    I'm not a big fan of the rubber sleeves. I guess they work for some people, and if you're one of those, more power to you, but my department issues Glocks, and a number of officers use those sleeves, and I see them all the time on officers' guns, shifted slightly out of position, so that the finger grooves aren't where they're supposed to be. When they get shifted out of position like that, and given the Glock already has molded in finger grooves, which compounds this problem, I don't see how you can have a proper grip if you have to draw suddenly to meet threat.
     
  9. PO2Hammer

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    Dammit HKGuns, I was ready to settle on the XD9 as my next poly pistol, and now you have me drooling over the P30.
    I've owned several USP's in the past and was always happy them, except for the ergonomics. I suppose the P30 fixes all of that.
     
  10. gym

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    After several hundred over 40+ years, I have settled on 1911 with the "handler" grips that "sarge" makes, from elite grips. And Glock M&P, and XD. The M&P and Glock are extremelly comfortable for me to shoot. I also put Talon grips on my Poly guns.The new guns offer various types of palm swells, and can be adjusted for carry or range use. I just picked up an M&P and love the grip. I got rid of the shield type guns, "single stack", other than the XDS, as they were concealable, but I couldn't stand the thin grip, I have large hands and they are just not for me.
     
  11. RBid

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    1. Walther PPQ and HK P30
    2. S&W M&P series
    3. P99
    4 and beyond: the rest

    To my hand, those pistols leave the rest well behind, despite the fact that I appreciate the SR series grips, Gen 3 grips, etc. Even the FMK pistols have pretty good grips.
     
  12. HKGuns

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    Sorry man, but glad to do it for you. I'm no HK fanboi [even though the name might suggest otherwise] but that pistol is just so darn comfortable and nice shooting its just plain silly.

    Here, let me toss this one at you and see what it does to you! :)

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    Ok, that wasn't really fair....Here let me offset with something a bit more tame.....but also with a very comfy grip. :evil:

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    I found the Steyr M to be the most comfortable by a good margin. After that, I prefer the XD but it's close to CZ, HK, FN, M&P etc. I liked the Glock Gen 2 grips (never tried a Gen 1) but don't really care for the Gen3/4 texture. I'd love to see someone make a polymer gun with some method of interchangeable grips (my FNP at least allows a choice of back straps).
     
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    This is my favorite as far as grip though the P99 is it's equal. The HK P30 is also outstanding in grip comfort but the PPQ kills it in the trigger quality department.

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    I tried but couldn't help point out the rounds loaded backwards in the magazines for post #14 and post #37. Was that done to prevent an accidental discharge during the photo "shooting" session?

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    Sigarms228, I've never hefted a Walther PPQ. Can you measure or describe the trigger reach, please?
     
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    Since you handled the P99 it would be almost identical. I have larger hands and I can use either the medium or large backstrap though I usually use the large and the reach to the trigger is perfect for me. The PPQ trigger also fires without going as far back as the P99 trigger which I find better for me (the PPQ)
     
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    Similar to the single action trigger, the AS trigger, or the DA trigger?
     
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    I love my Glocks! On my 23C I use Talon Rubber grips. On my 27 I use a Pacmyer sleeve to help with the recoil.
    I'm not a 1911 or Sig owner so the grip angel is awesome. Also shooting international pistol for five years the low wrist position is nice!

    In God and Glock we Trust
     
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    Almost identical to the SA trigger pull in the P99 AS.
     
  21. Jaywalker

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    That's very interesting - thanks.
     
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    Sunday I fired a Walther P99 in .40S&W (someone else's) for the first time. Have to say that the folks that rated the grip/ergos. highly are right. Beat the sox off my SA XD9.
     
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    Another current thread reminded me, the most comfortable poly pistol I've handled is the Ruger P345. The grip is slim, with secure, but not overly aggressive stippling, it has a nicely arched back strap, and shallow grooves for the thumb and trigger finger of the shooting hand.

    The S&W M&P and Ruger SR series are also nice as is the CZ SP01 Phantom.
     
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    Walther P99 9mm is comfy to me. Can't believe it holds 16 shots in the clip. ;)
     
  25. 460Shooter

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    No one has mentioned FN. I think the FNX and FNS 9 and 40 both have great ergos, and fit in my hand perfectly. I own neither, bt I do have an FNP-45. It is also great, but it is a big gun. Not good for small or medium handed people. Check out the smaller FN's if your hands are small.

    Great guns

    I also despise GLOCKs. I can shoot one well, I just think they are hideous.
     
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