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Polypropylene bat?

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by eb72826, Jan 17, 2008.

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  1. eb72826

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    Saw one in Cold Steel's catalog, called the Brooklyn Smasher or Crusher, depending on length. Has anyone seen or handled one? I know they claim to be tougher than wood, but I have trouble putting a whole lot of trust in what is really just plastic. Does seem like a pretty good backseat melee weapon, though.
     
  2. CWL

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    Stick with wood or aluminum bats. You will always have plausible deniability if forced to defend yourself with a bat. Real wood or aluminum means that you forget to take it home after a game. Something marked CS Brooklyn Smasher will scream "weapon here!"
     
  3. Skofnung

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    It will be tougher than wood due to the fact that plastic does not have a grain, thus it won't split. Better than wood? Maybe for beating on cinderblocks or car hoods.

    I'm with CWL on this one. The practical pros don't outweigh the potential legal cons.
     
  4. hso

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    It's tougher than wood, but you'll never be able to explain it as anything except a purpose built weapon and what's the point of carrying a baseball bat as a stealth weapon if the dang thing ain't a stealth weapon.
     
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    Just a theory mind you...

    I gotta wonder if the Marketing folks for some companies have family that are Lawyers.

    Creative Marketing at its finest!

    Market product, it sells, Problem 2 occurs and the Lawyer in the family gets a client.

    Brilliant!
     
  6. Sl2squeeze

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    Polypropylene products are generally tougher than wood, but they CAN break. There are sometimes air pockets in the mold that weaken the overall integrity of the bat.
     
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    Looks like just the thing to keep around the next time Yous wants to play some Baasball in Philly or da Bronx or Queens. You never know when a game will just come up. (But officer, dere I was-just minding my own business-eating my pizza wit my bros-and all of a sudden with absolutely no provocation on my part in walked. . .)
     
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  8. Joe Demko

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    If you keep a bat in your car, you really should keep a ball and a glove with it. Cops aren't all stupid or gullible.
     
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    "If you keep a bat in your car, you really should keep a ball and a glove with it. Cops aren't all stupid or gullible."

    I am surprised it took this long for this very good advice to be mentioned (it usually surfaces sooner in "bat" threads).

    Sorry, have to agree with everyone else, a Brooklyn Smasher is simply bad legal problems waiting to happen. Buy a regular bat, scrub a baseball on the grass a few times and throw both in your car.....if you must.
     
  10. cdcmj

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    + 1 on last two comments..get a bat, get a ball, get a glove, your done
     
  11. gym

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    For the cost of a Bat, Glove, and ball, "havent really shopped those", it's cheaper to buy a box of hollowpoints, lol, Don't forget tomorrow is the Trinadad-Jones fight, let's see what they bring
     
  12. Joe Demko

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    If you have a bat, ball, and glove you might even want to try playing a little ball. Not everything in life has to center around weapons and combat.
     
  13. et45

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    Add pair of cleats also to the list.
     
  14. JShirley

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    I'd get one of the two, if some idiot hadn't effectively written "this is a weapon!" on it. Sheesh.

    John
     
  15. Browning

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    I've seen and handled them and they looked and felt real tough to me.

    I sure wouldn't want to get hit with one anyway, they felt like they'd work much better than a regular bat if the weight and feel are any indication. I wonder if you could sand or scrape the Cold Steel "Brooklyn Smasher" logo off.

    Then you'd have a bat that'll stand up to just about any kind of abuse (as they are pretty tough from what I've seen of them, much tougher than wood or aluminum anyway from the videos, I didn't try to run one over with a car though to test them out the way they did on the video though) and then he wouldn't have to worry about it being a liability in front law enforcement, a DA or possibly a jury if he had to defend himself with it and if it made it that far through the legal system.

    A plain baseball bat is just a bat if it doesn't have anything that implies that it's a weapon on it.

    Alot of bats don't have anything on them after they've been handled awhile, it just rubs off over time.
     
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    I think one would be better served with a 24 ounce framing hammer. But then again, I drive a pickup (with tools behind the seat) and don't play baseball.
     
  17. GunTech

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    I once made a bat out of cocobolo for a friend. Would have made a hell of a club.

    Another vote for a hammer. I'm partial to a slate hammer, but as a former climber, I have a few ice axes as well.

    :)
     
  18. TimboKhan

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    I keep a bat in my car, and while I love baseball, I don't keep a ball and glove in there. Why? Simply because I don't give a darn if a cop knows it's a weapon. What, are the cops going to take my bat away because I don't have a concealed bat license? It's not that it's bad advice, and maybe in certain places in the country it's something to be concerned about, but not around here.

    Still, for the price of a Brooklyn Crusher, you can buy a nice aluminium bat at wally world for cheaper.
     
  19. cracked butt

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    That might be one of the stupidest products I've ever seen. More expensive than a wooden bat, less useful than a wooden bat, and something that has as its main purpose to be a weapon. If you have a bat that says 'Cold Steel' on it, it might as well have 'Mall Ninja' on it instead.:rolleyes:

    If you want something with a dual purpose try one of these: http://www.tackledirect.com/aftcofishbat.html

    Fish bats are a necessity for fishing for certain species (pike in the North or larger ocean fish) and they only offend animal rights activists. FWIW, I've always used 18" of wood cut off the end of a shovel handle for the purpose.
     
  20. highorder

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    you dont want to use those as weapons. They have almost no second strike capability. (they probably tend to sink in deep)

    funny thing is, I actuall DO have a bat, ball, and glove in the car... for baseball!
     
  21. Hot brass

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    The Brooklyn Smasher is not as long as a regular bat, if my memory serves me right. Order a Sjambok from Cold Steel instead.
     
  22. George Hill

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    I have an African Walking stick... it will do as a weapon. But I use it as a cane when my knee or ankle acts up. Everyone in town including all the LEOs have seen me use it as such. So should I have to T up on someone with it... it is still a cane.
     
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    Thankfully my gout doesn't act up on a regular basis so no need for a walking stick but for years I kept a spare ash axe handle alongside the seat of my truck for "special" occassions. It didn't look out of place next to my real axe, my sledge, shovel, rake etc.

    Actually I found it's use quite by accident when a drug runner tried to steal my truck while I was working on replacing an axe handle... :evil:
     
  24. JohnBT

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    Am I the only one who carries an old saltwater rod, tackle box, fillet knife and a fish club? Have you ever seen a 17-pound bluefish or a small shark flopping around in a little boat? And a saltwater license of course.

    www.meltontackle.com/catalog/product.asp?product_id=11194

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    Most folks just whittle down a broken bat and carve a picture of a fish or a boat on it. Drill a hole in the handle for a cord and you're set.
     
  25. rcmodel

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    I'm thinking an old used Plumbers Helper would best fit the "not a weapon" tool for car carry.

    They be runn'n before you get out of the car with it!

    Nobody wants to get hit in the face with a dirty toilet plunger! :D

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