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Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics and Training' started by Bobson, Oct 5, 2011.

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  1. Bobson

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    Here in Phoenix, it's hot enough that most people wear minimal clothing four-five months out of the year (or more if they can get away with it). Flip-flops and sandals are extremely common. Until recently, I wore them daily throughout the Summer months (read: April to September) too.

    Then it occurred to me that wearing flip-flops is a step in the wrong direction, as far as Toolset is concerned.

    Running in them is a joke. When I do need to run, and I find myself wearing flip-flops, I kick them aside and run barefoot. Potentially terrible situation. What about if I were in a fight? Not only are my bare feet exposed, wearing these traps on my feet is a stumble or trip waiting to happen - even without another person trying to throw you off-balance.

    I decided that I won't be wearing flip-flops from now on unless I'm at the beach. If I'm going to all the trouble of changing my wardrobe to accommodate more effective concealed-carry, working to be more aware of my surroundings (Mindset), and investing in MMA classes (Skillset), why should I intentionally hinder myself in my Toolset?

    What are your thoughts on this?
     
  2. X-Rap

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    Check out the Merrell Moab, they are a solid shoe and don't have a bunch of insulation or Gore Tex, lite weight, and well vented. I wear mine walking off road and they have good support and don't heat up to bad.
     
  3. Carl Levitian

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    thats why from April to October I live in my Teva or Keen sandals. Great traction, can walk a long way in them, and I can run as well as I can in athletic shoes given my age and needing of a cane. In my condition, running is not an option, but if I stand and fight at least my footgear will stand with me.

    There's sandals, and there's sandals. The old Samurii did well wearing them, as did the Viet Cong.

    Flip flops? Never wear em.

    Carl.
     
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    I wear boots year round in AZ. Get desert boots, like the Blackhawk Warrior Wear ones, good stuff. I adjusted my wardrobe years ago for CCW in this state.
     
  5. MrWesson

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    I wear flip flops all the time(I live in south FL) and I use a tactical removal. If you run a certain way they kick off and you are now barefoot.
     
  6. heeler

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    I love my flip flops but only use them at home.
    Several years ago my brother found himself in a very bad situation with several drunk young hoods at a drive up small store.
    He was wearing flip flops and in the ensuing fist fight with one of the bunch his big toe lost the nail in the battle,which was quite painful and for some time to come.
    That alone was enough for me and him to never again go out in public without wearing decent shoes to fight or flee in.
     
  7. 9mmepiphany

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    There are sandals and there are sandals...flip flops offer the worst of any offering for movement, be it running of fighting.

    If your self image is secure enough, Vibram FiveFingers running shoes are excellent and the new alternative are the Fila Skele-Toes 2.0 for about 60% of the price. The offer the feel or barefoot running with protection against common urban road hazards
     
  8. Purgatory

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    Very wise decision indeed, Bobson.

    I also came to this conclusion when considering a brief, barefoot or flip-flop clad, trip in the car to somewhere I didn't even intend to get out (drive-thru) or only get out for just a few steps (mailbox, convenience store, ATM, etc.)

    We so often take for granted our safety and comfort in our vehicles and feel just as secure as in our homes.

    I realized that if any unexpected breakdown of my vehicle were to occur stranding me, possibly in a bad area, I would not only be stuck walking in unsatisfactory foot attire, but I had better be carrying a handgun that is easily concealable.

    I used to like the idea of having a fullsize .45 in the car with me that is way too difficult to conceal because I didn't expect to 'need' to conceal it.

    Now, I try to always consider the possibility of those unplanned, unexpected Murphy-moments. If for any reason I have to beat feet, I want good comfortable tennis shoes or the equivalent and I want to have a handgun with me that will conceal well enough to carry it for a good long walk with a light T-shirt on in a brisk wind if necessary.

    Meaning NOT a Glock 21 or XDm .45 screaming that I'm carrying a firearm.

    Yes, flip-flops and bare feet are only around the house now. And even a rarity at that.
     
  9. Frank Ettin

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    When it's hot, I'm partial to Fisherman Sandals like these:

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    They provide good support and protection while also providing good ventilation.
     
  10. mljdeckard

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    I agree with 9mm and the OP. I have hated flip flops since I was a little kid. You have to pinch them to hold them on and I hate something between my toes.

    I also wear some flavor or other of hiking boots, even in the summer, but I do keep Tevas for when I just think my feet need to have a break and air out. At least I know I can run in them if I have to.
     
  11. JohnBiltz

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    Nothing wrong with sandals. For thousands of years it was what warriors wore. In Phoenix in the summer bare feet are a no go at least during daylight. You will literally cook your feet on concrete.
     
  12. Chindo18Z

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    And,

    Exactly this. I can do anything in Tevas except snow ski or use them for steel toed safety shoes. Run, climb, fight, walk, hike, slog across sand/water/mud/rocks, yard work, roof work, shopping, bicycling...they do it all. They are simply slip-on all terrain shoes (with velcro straps) that give you the ventilation & comfort of flip flops, but stay attached to your feet and provide excellent traction, toe protection, and stability. And they are great in the water (swimming), traversing flooded terrain, or on wet ground. Your feet (and the sandals) dry out quickly.

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    When I look down at my Teva-clad feet, I'm invariably reminded of low cut Roman Legionnaire sandals.
     
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    Purgatory
    I reluctantly offer the following because there is at least one memeber here who will want to yell, "see I told you!" But here goes.....

    Not to get off topic but I work 35 miles from home. My commute covers a variety of terrain and civilization. I wear dress pants, dress shoes, shirt and tie each day. Considering what Purgatory said, some time ago I packed a small backpack to leave in my truck with a change of clothes and a pair of comfortable walking shoes just for those occassions where staying with a stranded vehicle might not be the best idea I didn't want to be walking around looking like a potentially soft target. Unfortunately, situations often dictate attire.
     
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    I wear the vibram 5 fingers for light hiking and trail running; very cool footwear, this is true.

    That said, if I'm not running/exercising (or on the job in dress shoes), I'll probably just be in my old bison cowboy boots, or redwings or whatnot on my own time. I sort of prefer real man footwear...
    ;)
     
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    Good footwear is important. One should consider the environment one is in such as slip resistant soles when in resturants and similar settings.

    That said, one should also train with "not the best choices" as in the real world one might have deal with situations with what they do have on.

    Be this a lady in heels or a gent wearing leather sole shoes.
     
  17. regularjoe

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    I feel half naked in flip flops or anything without laces when I am out in the world. I live in Phx as well, but I would rather have sweaty feet than feet slashed up by busted bottles if I have to throw knuckle leather around or run away from something.
     
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    I wear boots 99% of the time. Went from lace-ups to pull-on cowboy boots several years ago and ain't going back. Most my boots are Ariats and while they look completely traditional, they have a comfortable insole, rubber outsole and are very comfortable for spending all day in.


    This is a very good idea!
     
  19. BBQLS1

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    I don't wear them often, but I do on occasion.
     
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    I am too old to run much. Anyone can easily catch me. I just avoid places where I might see trouble. I will stand and fight if necessary. I rarely wear flip flops. My very casual wear around the house is mociccans. I wear sneekers if I go anywhere.....chris3
     
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    Look into a pair of Chacos if you want to wear sandals. I've run miles in mine. They're by no means cheap, but last a lifetime and are insanely comfortable.

    http://www.chacos.com
     
  22. Purgatory

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    I completely agree.

    P2L, I am surprised I didn't think of this when I used to have to wear a full suit to work.

    Very, very good idea.

    I do usually have a camping/hunting/bug-out bag in the back of my SUV, but ya know, I don't think I've ever made sure I had a good, comfortable pair of walking shoes in it.

    A change of comfortable pants/shorts and t-shirt and quality tennis shoes is an absolutely essential need for any vehicle.

    That's why this Forum is great.

    Thanks, P2L.
     
  23. hso

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    Used to wear flip flops for about 2 years in college and then Teva's came out providing much more secure footing. Since then the only sandals that I've owned have been Tevas or Chacos that secure around the foot and across the forefoot. As Chindo says, you can do pretty much anything that doesn't actually require a boot to do.

    BTW, this is also a mindset issue and not just a tool issue. Understanding that sacrificing a little expense and comfort (although I find Chacos more comfortable than flip flops) to be able to perform is as important as what "tool" you actually select.
     
  24. mortablunt

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    You forget one serious tactical issue with sandals: hot brass can be ejected and make contact with your foot tissues. Summer clothing and clothes that expose more skin are bad choices for carrying because guns get hot and eject hot things. Do you really want a piece of metal that has just been blasted by 5000F gasses to go sailing into your skin? There is a reason why bodyguards like the Secret Service and others whose jobs mandate that they may very well need to use their weapons wear full length clothing.
     
  25. mljdeckard

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    Hot brass could be an issue, but not a deal breaker. It could hit other parts of your body as well.
     
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