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Poor Richard's Almanac is a terrorist's tool!

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  1. DaveB

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    Not even the National Lampoon would have thought up such an absurdity.

    From the AP, 12/29/03

    The FBI is warning police nationwide to be alert for people carrying almanacs, cautioning that the popular reference books covering everything from abbreviations to weather trends could be used for terrorist planning.

    In a bulletin sent Christmas Eve to about 18,000 police organizations, the FBI said terrorists may use almanacs "to assist with target selection and pre-operational planning."

    It urged officers to watch during searches, traffic stops and other investigations for anyone carrying almanacs, especially if the books are annotated in suspicious ways.

    "The practice of researching potential targets is consistent with known methods of al-Qaida and other terrorist organizations that seek to maximize the likelihood of operational success through careful planning," the FBI wrote.

    The Associated Press obtained a copy of the bulletin this week and verified its authenticity.


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  2. Tim Burke

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    So is having an almanac probable cause for a search? If not, how are they going to know how it is annotated?
    Will the next alert be for people with book covers on their books? There might be a concealed almanac.
    Has anyone thought that maybe they ought to put out an alert for Middle Eastern Islamic males between the ages of 15-40?
     
  3. greyhound

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    Good Lord. Guess they'll use the Patriot Act to find out whose been checking out almanacs at libraries!

    Heaven forbid they tell the citizens to be able to defend themselves....lets tell them to snoop on people to find out what they are reading!
     
  4. greyhound

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    The first thing that popped into my head when reading that was the Swedish girl in the "Ricola" commercials wagging her finger back and forth and saying "Nuh uh uh".:D
     
  5. kbr80

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    Can't do that. It would make to much sense.
     
  6. dischord

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    Well, this almanac concern is rather bizzaro, but in the FBI's defense:

    1) The concern is not over farmers almanacs like Poor Richards, but those thick "World Almanacs" that have all kinds of information that actually would be of use to terrorists -- everything from state capitals to lists of high-level government officials to lists of nuclear facilities to important holidays.

    Of course this information is available just as easily on the interent, so I suppose you could issue a similar notice about people with internet accounts.

    2) The FBI said that the carrying of almanacs -- in conjunction with other suspicious behavior -- is of concern. It isn't singling out almanac-carrying as this article implies.
     
  7. dischord

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    Here is the rest of the A.P. story

     
  8. TallPine

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    Well, that's nice to hear. :rolleyes:

    You think somebody might have a legitimate use for a map in their car...?

    So what's next...? Encyclopedias, travel guides, dictionaries, maybe traveling with an AM/FM radio receiver ....?
     
  9. sm

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    You've got to be kidding me!

    Farmer's Almanacs are a great read, witty and I recall the teachers would ask us to write and/or discuss the various essays. Folks used these for planting and everything.

    Almanacs are great learning tool, heck I've given several to kids as a reference tool.

    So I guess when we see an increase in okra planting and castrations of farm animals the "big one" is just around the corner huh?.

    Or that means we should start hoarding these various Almanacs. I doubt Big Brother uses almanacs in State Indoctrination Schools .

    When Almanacs are outlawed - only terrorists will have Almanacs...

    Sheesh...it is the INTENT of the person not the darn tool...err...Almanac ! When are we going to start dealing with people and not the darn "tools" ??

    Not one time today has my inanimate Desk Encylopedia made a threatening move...only reason "it" moved was because "I" moved it...nor has a loaded handgun and spare mag...and "they" won't move until 'I' move them...arrgghh!!
     
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    So, it'd be okay to let my oldest son keep the Almanac in the van with us, but if he does, I can't keep my bird watching binoculars there?

    Land of the free. :( Right.

    pax

    The usual road to slavery is that first they take away your guns, then they take away your property, then last of all they tell you to shut up and say you are enjoying it. -- James A. Donald
     
  11. cpileri

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    banned books?

    Eva Braun would be so proud. Lets burn 'em!
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  12. seeker_two

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    Knowledge is a dangerous weapon. Thank goodness that our public schools are engaged in disarming our children...:rolleyes:
     
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    Mr. Burke said

    QUOTE]Has anyone thought that maybe they ought to put out an alert for Middle Eastern Islamic males between the ages of 15-40?[/QUOTE]

    LMAO :D

    Just like every other alphabet agency, they are looking for tools instead of terrorists. :barf:

    Now, if the tool is a canister ov VX gas, or a small thermonuclear device, OK :eek:

    But an almanac? :cuss:
     
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    Almanacs

    Gee! What do you think they would do to you if you were carrying a witches almanac?:what: :evil:
     
  15. El Tejon

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    Hmmm, how about an Internet connection?:confused: :eek:

    Double Yikes, Batman.
     
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    I won't start to worry until I hear Agent Schmuckatelli has been taken off the case.
     
  17. SteelyDan

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    On the surface this does sound easy to ridicule, but I doubt that fact would be lost on the FBI, which is presumably somewhat sensitive about its image. When I first read the warning I therefore assumed there was some hard intelligence involving "almanacs" which led the FBI to, perhaps sheepishly, issue the warning. There are certainly other possibilities, but I'll stick with my gut instinct here.
     
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    Would a AAA TourBook be considered an "almanac"? After all, it lists many locations and attractions which could be used "to assist with target selection and pre-operational planning." or "researching potential targets". It also contains maps to those locations and attractions.
     
  19. XavierBreath

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    Whew.............. I just boxed up my almanacs and buried them in the back yard. That was a close one!
     
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    :confused:

    What about Fodor's?
     
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    When does the frog start to boil again?
     
  22. Ky Larry

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    No wonder we're awash in terrorists, criminals, dope dealers, pimps, rapists,and theives. Sleep tight, Barney Fife is on guard.:rolleyes:
    Next time you see someone with a map, tourist guide book, or almanac, call 911. It's your patrotic duty.
     
  23. ravinraven

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    This is either seriocomic or humoserious

    I can remember studying Air Force history back in about 1960 that we [the good guys] had almost NO navigation information about the various badguylands. There was a run on old National Geographic magazines and other publications that published maps accurate enough to get a force of bombers on a target.

    So. There is something to this even though my over-worked sense of humor is about to have heart failure.

    I can just see a bunch of camo clad militia duds out running around in the woods and swapping Old Farmer's Almanacs.

    rr
     
  24. Master Blaster

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    I just have one question:

    WHEN DO WE START BURNING THE BOOKS?????

    :fire:
     
  25. HankB

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    Hmmm . . . in many government schools, zero-tolerance has gotten students expelled for having things like a box cutter in the tool box behind the seat. (Along with hammers, pliers, screwdrivers, etc.)

    One tyke was suspended for pointing a chicken finger and saying "pow." (No word on whether he ate the evidence.)

    Heaven forbid a student should bring an ALMANAC along - a government school is no place for books!

    Uhhh . . . wait a minute there . . .
     
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