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[Lord Grey Boots]

I am a permanent resident alien and was incorrectly denied early last year when the rules changed.

Permanent residents can purchase firearms, temporary residents can't.

The NICS operator screwed up and denied me, but a NICS supervisor I talked to a few minutes later confirmed I was OK, but once its been entered as denied, I needed to go through the appeal process.

I appealed and passed no problem.

Sounds like the "bigot store" didn't know the rules. Check the ATF/BATF websites for the rules on this, and appeal. Then talk to a lawyer about libel, as the "bigot store" is falsely accusing you of committing a federal crime.

 

[sigmaman]

sigmaman,

It is possible for the people in the store to be ignorant of the firearms laws while at the same time not being racist individuals or a racist company as a whole. Please refrain from automatically pulling the race card until you have facts substantiating your claim regarding racism as the sole reason you had a bad experience . I understand you are angry, but get a lawyer and get this sorted out.

Did you think they would not be able to put two halves of paper together to get your information?

60-80 employees 100% white milwaukee wi
dont know maybe it was the guys mannerisms maybe i dont know what discrimination is, I WAS There!
as far as tearing up the 4473 i did it cause i was fed up and i said when i did it "you just lost a sale" it wasnt about trying to hide anything if that was the case i would of taken it with us

 

[Art Eatman]

sigmaman, Lord Grey Boots' response is probably the most useful advice.

Worryin' about the "why" of the first store's peoples' behavior is a waste of psychic energy. Just vote with your dollars. Seems to me the deal is to get the pistol your wife wants...

Art

 

[sigmaman]

thanks

buying it today
it is a waste of pysche energy your totally right
my wife and i went to the uscis yerterday (ins formerly) and she got finger printed seems when we were there last week the interviewer forgot to get a set for her "NEW" A card
i think im just getting unnesscarily paranoid when i get older maybe its the first signs of alzheimers this will get straightened out

 

[Art Eatman]

Grat!

Glad it's working out for y'all...

, Art

 

[sigmaman]

well so far its not working out

we still have not received the appeal packet from the state
talking to the hangun hotline yesterday it appears from there attitude they are not going to send it
they told my wife quite plainly calling is not going to help
and they have no answer on if they sent it or not

 

[F4GIB]

I fail to see what your rant has to do with the ATF.

You are correct. It's the FBI. Hardly anyone knows that the big boys at the Bureau run the NICS system (through an outside contractor).

Most gun owners don't follow Washington's internicine warfare. They think guns, they think AFT. But, the FBI won the game of interagency politics and got the big kahuna (lots of money, people, and power) away from the BATF in 1993.

P. S. Everyone should learn a lesson from this incident. Once you start filling out papers at a gun store, bank, or anywhere else and you decide to abort the transaction, tear up the document and then put it in your pocket and take the torn-up documents away with you. Leave nothing behnd. If you ever go back, start anew. I've done this numerous times. They aren't going to physically wrest the documents from you (unless they want an assault and battery tort lawsuit).