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Powerbelt HP 348 for elk

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by abaddon, Sep 22, 2012.

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  1. abaddon

    abaddon Member

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    Hi,

    I'm using a .50 Armsport for Elk in Western WA this year.

    I bought some 348 grain copper jacketed hollow points. With a bit more fiddling I think I'll be able to get acceptable groups out to 100 yards (100 grains of powder).

    My only concern is will this open up too much in the animal? I'm concerned that it won't penetrate enough. The copper jacket looks very modest. Since it's already a .50 caliber projectile my preference would be for no expansion and hopefully a through-and-through. Seems like the safest bet with an animal this big.

    What are your thoughts?
     
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    you'd be much better off with the Flat Point lead powerbelt in 348 grains. The copper jacket is only to keep lead fouling down, its .005" thick and doesnt do a thing to control expansion.

    Go here and email them for a sizing sample, its free of charge. www.thorbullets.com these will work much better.
     
  3. abaddon

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    Any other replies? I appreciate yours Frontiergander, but I don't see a lot of details on bullet construction on that site. I'm kind of a details guy.

    My take is that it's already a .50 hole. Why would you want any expansion in an elk? Does anyone make a 350 grain (or so) bore diameter bullet that's not designed to expand?
     
  4. arcticap

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    I would recommend the Hornady FPB which comes in 300 & 350 grain weights and has proven performance on large game. They also shoot well from a variety of rifling twists.

    http://www.hornady.com/store/50-Cal-300-gr-FPB/


    http://www.hornady.com/store/50-Cal-350-gr-FPB/

    There's 51 customer reviews about them on the Cabela's FPB product page:

    http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hornady-50-Caliber-FPB-Black-Powder-Bullet-with-Flex-Tip-Technology/740611.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dhornady%2BFPB%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26x%3D4%26y%3D8&Ntt=hornady+FPB

    Another proven alternative would be to simply use one of the heavier lead bore size conicals like the 385 grain Hornady Great Plains bullet. Their heavier weight and lower velocity could also result in less expansion and more penetration. However, any bullet would need to be tested for long range accuracy, ease of loading and consistent results. Cabela's product page has 36 customer reviews:

    http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hornady-Great-Plains-Bullets/740549.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dhornady%2Bgreat%2Bplains%2Bbullet%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26x%3D0%26y%3D0&Ntt=hornady+great+plains+bullet

    http://www.hornady.com/store/50-Cal-385-gr-HB-HP/

    For loading any conical besides a Powerbelt, be sure to have a wood or plastic mallet handy to help start it into the bore just in case your bore is tight. :)
     
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