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Practicing with a .22lr...Does it really help?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by itgoesboom, Apr 27, 2005.

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  1. itgoesboom

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    Will shooting with a .22lr pistol or rifle help you be a better shot with your other firearms?

    I know lots of people believe this, and I have always subscribed to this as well, but I have heard conflicting opinions on it.

    So does it actually help, or does it just teach you to expect a smaller recoil and suprise you when you shoot a larger one?

    I.G.B.
     
  2. CAS700850

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    In my experience, shooting a .22 reinforces the basics. Grip, trigger squeeze, sight alignment, etc. Of course, it does nothing to help with recoil control, rapid fire of a heavier caliber, etc.

    Plus, it's so darn much fun, how can you pass it up?
     
  3. Gunpacker

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    .22 for practice

    Shooting accurately involves getting the sights on the target and keeping them there as you pull the trigger. No difference in any gun. Recoil is greater in centerfires, but that comes after the bullet fires. Advancing to shooting heavy recoiling guns will require that you learn to accept the recoil without letting it bother as you align the sights and pull the trigger. .22 practice is great practice even after you are an accomplished centerfire shooter. Those that don't think .22 has a place in practice are misinformed and are missing a lot of inexpensive fun. My current holy grail is to find an ammo for my CZ 452 that will shoot a single hole consistently at 50 yds. It is a great challenge, and lots of fun. I can still shoot the big ones about as well as most, and don't suffer when I switch.
     
  4. Ohen Cepel

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    I think it is a huge help vs not shooting, or vs shooting less.

    Also, it's very helpful in that it doesn't give you a flinch that will last for years.

    I can't see a downside to it myself.
     
  5. foghornl

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    Helps...a lot.

    I take my .22's when I want to practice cheaply with less noise & recoil.
     
  6. M2 Carbine

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    Shooting is shooting.
    It all helps.
     
  7. MikeIsaj

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    You bet it helps! Shooting involves basic skills. Those skills apply to any weapon you shoot. Shooting .22lr lets you develop those skills into habits that you will automatically apply. The loud noise and recoil aren't necessary elements of those skills. They don't happen until after you shoot. Also it's cheaper to learn with .22lr.

    Of course you do need to develop a tolerance for the noise and recoil when you move up in power. But that's easy once you have mastered the basics.
     
  8. Ian

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    Yup, it's a great help. I shot mostly .22 pistol in school (had a range on campus), and I found my centerfire rifle shooting improving even though I didn't get much trigger time behind those guns. Like everyone else has said, shooting .22s helps you refine the fundamentals (sights and trigger), and those are by far the most important skills when shooting anything else.
     
  9. 30Cal

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    Practicing with a .22 will help build and reinforce sound fundamental shooting skills. In many respects, it's a better exercise than shooting a larger caliber because without the recoil, you will have a hard time developing bad habits such as jerking the trigger or flinching (and it will help you correct those issues if you have developed them).

    The only lessons you cannot learn with a .22 are skills that are somewhat specialized to one shooting discipline or another such as building a recoil-proof rapid fire position.


    Ty
     
  10. ACP230

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    I used to practice for pin matches with a .22 caliber Colt Conversion Unit on my old .45ACP. It helped a lot and was cheaper than practicing with my .45 reloads.

    I have also done double-action practice with my Smith & Wesson Model 18, a .22 that is almost exactly the same as the .38 or .357 Smith M15 or M19.
     
  11. Tijeras_Slim

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    Trigger time is trigger time. :D
     
  12. Texian Pistolero

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    Great for intro to the "fun"damentals!

    But, while I LOVE my .22 pistols,

    I've found that if I shoot them too much,

    my grip starts to relax,

    and when I return to centerfire handgun,

    recoil surprises me again.

    Takes me a box or two of centerfire to regain my groove.

    Train as you live,

    live as you train.

    Not that big of a problem with .22 rifles, since kick in 5.56 and 7.62 X 39 is niegligible.
     
  13. Jim Diver

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    Even practice with airsoft guns is good.

    There is a asian kid who shoots competitions in the US. WHen in Japan he practices only with an airsoft then comes over to the US, practices with a .22 then clean house at the competition.
     
  14. Standing Wolf

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    Part of the reason my bullseye scores have improved during the past year is that I shoot my air pistol daily. As long as you're practicing the right techniques, more is better.
     
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    Does anyone carry a 22 auto for CCW? I'm not looking for a comparison to larger calibers....just wondering if anyone does, and if they care to comment.
     
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    Absolutely. I'm employed as a JROTC instructor at a high school, we have a rifle team and I'll most likely be the coach next year. While watching/supervising the team practicing if there is an empty lane I'll get a rifle and join in. These are souped up .177 pellet guns, run close to 750-800 fps, at the 30' target distance are effective. Sometimes I'll shoot three-four hours a week. I have noticed an improvement in my shooting. As mentioned, work on the basics. Do it right every time and it will hit, doesn't matter if its 30'or 300 yds.

    rk
     
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    Does anyone carry a 22 auto for CCW? I'm not looking for a comparison to larger calibers....just wondering if anyone does, and if they care to comment.
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    I used to carry a Beretta 22 before I got a Kel Tec 32 and .380.
     
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    I agree that shooting is shooting. If it didn't work the military wouldn't spend hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars on "video games," beam hit ( a laser trainer), and various other techniques that don't spit rounds down range.
    Even the dime drill will help with your techniques. Place a dime on the end of your barrell, get a good sight pic, a good breathing pattern, and squeeze the trigger. If you are doing everything right the dime should not drop to the ground.
     
  19. BlackJack

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    What I teach is based on my personal experience. The more I practice to reinforce my fundamentals with a .22LR, the better I shoot with my 9mm and .45 because the key benefit is the ingraining and reinforcement of the skills. Shooting is an unnatural act. Repetition helps make it natural. Just shooting--blasting--only spends bullets. Practicing by thinking through each shot--making sure you have a good sight picture and sight alignment, making sure you're controlling your breathing, makng sure you squeeze the trigger so you're surprised when the round goes off, and making sure you follow through on each shot--all of those help ingrain the skills you need to shoot anything well.
     
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    Since February last year, when I suffered a serious back injury at the prison where I work, my doctor has banned me from shooting anything centerfire, because recoil is apparently transmitted through the skeleton to the back, and this might aggravate the injury. I've only been allowed to shoot rimfire guns. I don't know how well it's helped me retain my centerfire skills, but at least it's kept me shooting when nothing else would do!

    I'll find out about centerfire shooting in May or June, when I hit the range after spinal fusion surgery in March. :D
     
  21. Ky Larry

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    When I was in high school many years ago, some friends and I would spend available Saturday's at the local dump. Many bricks of .22 lr's and a lot of dead rats made us all better shots. Proper tecnique and concentration with a .22 will make you a better shot with any firearm, plus it's a lot of fun. :D
     
  22. Gunnutz13

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    For pure shooting enjoyment...

    it's hard to beat a .22...you also learn the basics like sight picture, trigger control, breathing...not to mention how cheap it is to blast away for hours.

    :evil:
     
  23. cracked butt

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    Absolutely!
    If you can't hit an object at 100 yards with a good fitting 'adult' .22, you certainly won't be able to hit it with a centerfire. Conversely, if you can hit something with a .22, you can hit it with a bigbore.
     
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    Yes. I regularly pop golfballs at various distances with a Ruger MKII. It's good practice for sight alignment and trigger control. Plus it's way fun. :)
     
  25. pinetree64

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    Yes. When I use to shoot my 44mag, I'd start developing a flinch. Lots of trigger time with my Ruger MKII has really helped.

    tjg
     
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