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Precision Rifle range membership question

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by taliv, Feb 4, 2012.

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  1. taliv

    taliv Moderator

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    if there were a facility within say, a 2 hour drive of you, that
    allowed long range unknown distance shots (several different places to shoot 500-1000+ yrds),
    provided high quality steel targets, (e.g. auto-poppers from larue or spindrift)
    moving targets,
    high angle shots,
    night shoots, and rents NV sights (e.g. PVS-27s)
    rentals of premium rifles (GAPrecision, AI, KAC SR25s with premium optics)
    provided training classes for individuals and groups (at a deep discount for members)
    hosted "sniper style" and 3gun competitions
    has 100 yrd zero range and pistol bays
    etc

    would you be interested in an annual membership? how much would you be willing to pay per year?
     
  2. ole farmerbuck

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    Wow, I dont know but it would be worth a premium I'd say. I've never shot a public range. I have all the distant shooting you'd ever need out here but sure dont have any of the luxuries you mentioned. Good question.
     
  3. HOOfan_1

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    Heck yes. I couldn't afford/justify more than $150 though. No way I would go to it often enough to justify more. What you are suggesting sounds like something which would ordinarily be a $500+/year membership though. At least that seems to be the going rate for the new indoor range in my area. Personally I think their rates are ridiculous.
     
  4. esheato

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    Yes. Have the guns, ammo, targets and other gear. Location is a never ending issue. Worth a bill or three to me.
     
  5. A-FIXER

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    If it offered unlimited visits and above mentioned I would do 200.00 to 250.00 and know if I need rentals and it would be modest priced would the range have RO's and if so would they allow min of min's to allow shooting before stopping and starting with multiple lanes and no limit to how many rifles I would be using on that particular lane, and to offer many shooters at one time if so maybe as much as 300.00. I rent some land for shooting and if this was available to me I would think of joining and would make my possible 2 hrs road trip worth it with all the ammo and rifles I wanted to shoot.
     
  6. FlyinBryan

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    i would be interested until i heard it was 400-500 per year, and then i would (did with a similar deal) run away

    my local range only goes up to 200yds. i buy a yearly membership there for around 10-15 dollars a year, then everytime i shoot it is a 10 dollar range fee. i like it because they are very stern and strict on safety procedures, its very well kept, has very good right and left hand benches, shade over the shooters, and well kept and often replaced target backing boards.

    now what would interest me is if they had very long lanes like 300, 600, and 1000 yds.

    i would definitely occasionally pay "by the yard" so to speak.

    the range i frequent already charges more for the 200yd lanes, which in honesty is fair because it does basically double the time of "cease fire, check and post targets"

    maybe charge extra for a "long range license" and "long range lanes"

    like 20 extra dollars for the long range license (30 instead of 10 in my case) and maybe 30 dollars for a single lane. choosing another yardage on the same day is an additional 15 bux.

    this would add up in a hurry where revenue is concerned for the range owners, but looks much more attractive to those that might not could afford otherwise.

    lets say a fella buys a l.r. license, and makes six trips in a year, and shoots 2 long range lanes per trip

    l.r. yearly license.................................................................30.00
    six trips to the l.r. lanes......................................................180.00
    six extra lane fees for moving from the 600 to the 1k.................90.00

    total revenue from the casual long range crowd individual.........300.00

    many would shoot more, but said range could host many more "average casual shooter" than the big one time fee guys. it would seem to average joe to be only costing him 30-45 bux to shoot like the big boys, but the end result for the range would be very similar in winnings, possibly far better being more attractive to those like me.

    i would bite.
     
  7. labillyboy

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    There are a couple of places like that minus the night shooting north of Los Angeles. http://www.oaktreegunclub.com/ they are $250/yr., you can check their prices on their web site. http://raahauges.com is $400 a year... There are a few others... That's what we have in Los Angeles...
     
  8. Tim the student

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    The amount I would pay would be related to how far away it was. The closer it would be, the more I would be willing to use it, and therefore be willing to pay more. Farther away means more time driving, (which I despise just a bit less than I despise the TSA), and less time with my family, not to mention fuel costs.

    2 hours, maybe 50-100 bucks max. I doubt I would be there that much, so I wouldn't be very willing to fork over a lot of dough.

    10 minutes to a half hour away? Shoot, maybe 250-350 or so, especially if the folks were friendly - or at least not curt.

    The rentals sound cool, but I know if I would ever really use them much. I really don't have any desire to shoot at night, and buying factory ammo would probably keep me away from renting the rifles. Maybe once just because I think it would be really cool to shoot an AI. I doubt I'd be a repeat renter though. Maybe after I shot them, but right now I doubt it.

    FWIW, I also have 2 ranges within 20 minutes of me, with one having a 200 yard range, and a 200 yard range about an hour away, all free. If I didn't have anything like that, I reckon I'd pay more.
     
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  9. A-FIXER

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    Also if they had closed circuit tv that had moniters at the shooters bench with hourly 20 min target change out would be a plus. I know it wasn't posted but that would be a huge plus.
     
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    It's a bit odd, until recently I would regularly drive more than an hour to shoot. I recently moved out to the desert, and I could now feasibly set up my own known-distance rifle range.

    For all the other stuff and services, I would love to have them, I don't know if I would feel like paying for a full membership until I was up to the level where I would use all of them well.
     
  11. taliv

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    thanks for the feedback so far. seems a lot are commenting on the downtime for changing targets. just to be clear, at this range, the targets (except for zero range) would be provided for you. steel that does not need to be reset, so no "cease fire, check and post targets" at all.

    thx for the links labilly
     
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    that would definitely be cool.

    if my local rifle range had a few lanes like that i would definitely pay more and spend my time on them.
     
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    i hope there's a range near me (raleigh, nc) that can shoot rifle 200+ yards :(
     
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    thanks for the info, looks like it's a good range, just hope it's closer, it's long drive
     
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    I think I might pay $50/year and ONLY if it was within 30 minutes of my house.
     
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    What makes the range a "Precision Range"?
     
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    You may want to preface this by asking the posters' locations; since this range idea sounds great, but it is impossible to achieve without a war chest of multiple millions of dollars in this (the larger NYC) area. Even if you had the loot, the location, and the liability insurance, you'd never get it by the town or the neighbors.
     
  19. Sam1911

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    Intent. Set up to accomodate long-range "practical" style rifle shooting. Specifically, as he said, "long range unknown distance shots (several different places to shoot 500-1000+ yrds)."

    Also, these: "moving targets, high angle shots, night shoots." All interesting skills practice most traditional ranges have no way to provide.

    Also no-reset steel gong targets of the type common to that style or rifle practice, rather than walk-out-and-paste-it paper targets you'd use if you were shooting groups a'la bench-rest competition.

    Not a set of target butts in a line like for CMP highpower competition, and quite possibly, no shooting benches for rests and bags, but various kinds of semi-improvised firing positions and/or prone shots.

    At least that's what I think when I hear "precision rifle."
     
  20. SharkHat

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    Thanks for the explanation Sam.

    I guess my line of thinking was along the lines that the range itself is providing the elements for practical shooting, and it's up to the shooters to provide the precision.
     
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    Taliv,

    For what you describe, I'd pay anything up to ~$500/year, maybe a bit more, but with a few caeveats.

    - The ranges need to be open and available during daylight hours, say 8-7 or so. I have no problem with driving two hours to the range, but if I do, I'm going to spend the bulk of the day there.
    - The range rules need to be geared towards practical shooting, rather than benchrest or F-class.
    - Members and guests only - no hourly or daily passes.
    - A 300-yard bay for 3-gun and carbine practice would be nice to have.

    Is this actually likely to happen? It sounds like a nice facility...

    -C
     
  22. The Wiry Irishman

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    Since there's nothing like that anywhere near me here in indiana, and since what is available stops at around 300, id be willing to pay quite a premium: Maybe as much as 500+ depedning upon the quality of equipment, facilities, and the attitude of the management and general membership. One question id be asking is if my fees were inflated to cover the cost of the rental arsenal. It would be a fair chunk of chanfe to build up a stock of the rifles and optics you mentioned and it might be a while before they pay for themselves.
     
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    Nope. But then, I can escape down to the ranch for this sort of thing :).
     
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    I happily pay $100 a year now for something not nearly that nice. If it was within half an hour of me I'd probably pay around $400-500. That price would go down the farther out it was from me.

    Hard to find a place around here to shoot any distance.
     
  25. taliv

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    Sam exactly thanks
    Chris I'm thinking seriously about it. Would really like to.

    Range rules would permit dynamic shooting practice consistent with practical match activities. Probably wouldn't be a bench on the property.

    If member only members would be issued keys and could shoot 24x7. Supervised appointments for nonmembers and rentals. Prob also for mover and some of the more expensive targets
     
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