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Price Check/Fair Offer Taurus G2c

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Varminterror, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. Varminterror

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    A buddy called me today, his neighbor had a Taurus Millenium subject to the recall, they sent him a G2c in exchange, said neighbor is trying to unload the G2c, new in box, never fired. Looks like they run $250 at Cabelas, $220 Brownells + transfer fee, call it break even, $210 ish buy it now price on Gunbroker + shipping and transfer, again, call it break even... Apparently the bottom absolutely fell out of these Taurus pistols following the recall - not that they were ever expensive, but they’re obviously not bringing much these days!

    I keep a fleet of 9mm pistols to use as loaners and demo pistols in handgun classes, and the price might be worth adding. I’ve never had trouble making Taurus pistols behave and run properly for customers, so that doesn’t turn me off - I just wouldn’t carry it to potentially save my own life...

    So what’s a fair offer on it, should I decide I’m inclined to buy it from the guy?
     
  2. C0untZer0

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    You can get them as low as $180.00 shipped when they go on sale.
     
  3. Tallball

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    $200 would be fair. You would have trouble getting one cheaper than $200 OTD, and he would have trouble getting more than that for it.

    I have one and feel that it's a decent gun. The trigger is strange, though not bad, and it's been reliable.
     
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  4. Capt.Roll

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    Agree. I have one; it's a $200 pistol at best. Trigger will need work. The finger safety on mine has too much resistance and often times will cause the primary trigger to slightly hang when firing a round.
     
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  5. Fine Figure of a Man

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    The market for Taurus is what it is. I wouldn't feel bad offering $180 cash, might go a little more if I really had a need for it.
     
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  6. Skylerbone

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    Dump it price for me would be somewhere around $125, don’t need it at $150, and let’s discuss reality at $175. When you can buy a Ruger brand new for $229 or so which will elicit more name recognition and resale value, the Taurus is a harder sell. Throw in the glut of PD trade-ins of Glock/S&W/Springfields/Berettas and most people gravitate toward the safe bet.

    Fair is nice, but not at the expense of burning yourself. I’d not go above $160 and I feel that’s being fair to both parties. FWIW $191 all-in was the cheapest price I found, though my FFL only charges $10/transfer.
     
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  7. bannockburn

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    I would go with between $160 to $180 as being a fair price range for a used Taurus G2c.
     
  8. Everready73

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    I would pay about $160 used Max for one considering you can get them new for $180-200 at times. I think PSA has them for $199 right now.

    I am not huge on Taurus but that is a reliable gun for the most part samesame the 709. I just picked up a 709 for $120 used as a beater gun. Came with a decent kydex holster that was at least $30 new as well
     
  9. Tallball

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    The OP said it was NIB and never fired. Since there would be no tax, shipping, or FFL fee, I would still say that $200 would be a fair number for both parties. Lowballing your friend for $160 or something is not the way to be a friend.
     
  10. Skylerbone

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    So you feel the OP should add $9 to the price he would pay if he chose to purchase the very same pistol online? I’d call that overly generous to the seller. The OP has made it clear this is not a needs based purchase, merely an opportunity to help someone else out of an unfavorable position of currently owning a firearm he no longer wants.
     
  11. Vonderek

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    For a gun I don't want or need and with a person who is not willing to put the effort into selling it I would go with him to a pawn shop to see what they will give him for it then offer him $50 more.
     
  12. Praxidike

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    Online prices, face to face Armslist prices, and gun shop prices are all different. Private gun sale prices are generally more than online prices, but less than gun shop prices...

    I sometimes knowingly will purchase a used gun via ArmsList knowing I can get get NIB online for less or the same price. Some do this because they don't have to worry about waiting for shipment, having to deal with government red tape, and/or having a paper trail...

    Even when I sell ArmsList, I charged higher higher than online prices. I ALWAYS have several interested buyers. I almost ALWAYS will get that guy(s) who will email me to tell me what he can get the gun from elsewhere, and my response is always " then I suggest you go there and get it."

    Telling the OP to argue with the seller based on online prices is just as silly as someone going into a LGS to do the same... Different markets, different prices....

    I could get $250 all day via face to face sale for a G2. They sell for around $200-$250 new plus tax or transfer and government red tape. $200 for a private sale LNIB gun seems very reasonable and fair FOR THE PRIVATE SALE MARKET.
     
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  13. Varminterror

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    I do this very thing about monthly. If a shop won’t or can’t get within about $25-50 (depending on price) of the total cost I’ll spend by using an online vendor, then I’ll order online with a song in my heart. I drop shipped a P320 from Brownells to a shop which had them on the shelf because the total after transfer was $100 less than it would have cost to buy from the shop. The internet is worldwide, and the mailman delivers all over the country - shopping online prices against local shops keeps the locals honest.
     
  14. Skylerbone

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    Not once have I suggested arguing about price, I gave my opinion on the fair value of a specific pistol with a specific history. I’ve purchased face to face and it wasn’t to hide a transaction or avoid 1 simple form- not that I agree with having to fill it out. I also paid no premium I am aware of, I simply knew what I wanted and did my research.
     
  15. Yo Mama

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    Wait a minute this is a Taurus? Seller needs to pay the buyer to make it fair!
     
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    When people would bring up the reputation for low Taurus quality, the counter would be that their firearms come with a lifetime warranty, and if you have the patience to keep sending it back, they'll eventually make it right. But they dropped their lifetime warranty. I'm not sure what the warranty even is.

    It seems like a bad deal that he had a gun with a lifetime repair policy recalled and they replaced it with a gun with an unknown repair policy?
     
  18. GunnyUSMC

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    I see a lot of the PT111 G2s at work. The bad guys like them and use them. The G2c has a few changes, one is the added manual safety. I think the added the manual safety for the people that have problems running with scissors and sharp sticks.
    I think it would make a nice truck gun or a shop gun.
     
  19. franco45

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    The PT111 G2 had a manual safety. The locking safety has been removed from the G2c.
     
  20. GunnyUSMC

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    The G2c does have a manual safety. So they’re both safe for people that have trouble running with scissors and sharp sticks.
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  21. WestKentucky

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    180-200 is as fair as it gets. They are decent guns. Your not going to find another 9mm for that money outside of a low tier gun (hi point, sar) and to be honest the Ruger guns don’t have the greatest following either. I would put that G2c into a category of “affordable” as opposed to cheap or premium as the polymer guns go. When you look at other guns in that price point (Ruger 9e, keltec pf9, Bersa) you can make a very good argument for the Taurus. It’s far better than a Jennings J9, cobray, etc and it’s certainly no XD, Glock, m&p.

    It is reliable, it has favorable reports, and it’s not a bad price. Don’t lose a friend over it.
     
  22. C0untZer0

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    They both have a flip-down frame-mounted manual safety. The Taurus Millennium G2 PT-111 has a key-operated safety lock built into the slide:




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  23. GunnyUSMC

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    That's the Lawyer safety, and for parents that have kids that haven't learned how to run with scissors and sharp sticks yet.
    I think the changes are an improvement. If Taurus can keep guilty up and the price down, that's a good thing.
     
  24. someguy2800

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    Im not in need of it so I would tell him $150 is what it’s worth to me and advise him if he wants to try to get more out of it try putting it on armslist.
     
  25. GunnyUSMC

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    The PT111 G2 and the G2c are pretty much the same gun.
    You can see very little differences in the two.
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    G2c on left.
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    G2c on left
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