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Price Gouging - Who is & Who is not?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Triumph, Apr 3, 2013.

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  1. Triumph

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    Thought it might be helpful to have a list of the online retailers that are price gouging & those who are not.

    If gouging is to strong a word you can think of it any way you like - big mark ups, keystoning, etc...

    Please spare me the explanation of Supply & Demand. I have a degree in economics & get it. Companies can charge what they want but customers also have LONG memories. :barf:

    I am talking about online dealers who hope to stay in the business of reloading supplies.

    There are several reputable online dealers that are not significantly raising prices.

    Please limit to Online Dealers only & not your LGS.
     
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    This is being accounted for in General Gun Discussions.
     
  3. Arkansas Paul

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    While there are a few retailers that I won't do business with because of insane price hikes, let me say. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PRICE GOUGING WHEN TALKING ABOUT NON-ESSENTIAL ITEMS!
    Buying things that are not absolutely necessary is a choice. You don't have to buy it, hence, there is no price gouging. It's their right to charge what they won't. By the same token, it is our right to take our business elsewhere.
     
  4. Triumph

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    I should have prefaced that I was referring to reloading supplies.
     
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    I see. Well I'm no help there. I have a large backorder with PV and the rest I have needed I found locally for reasonable prices.
     
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    I just love hearing how the gouging scumbags are providing a valuable service.. to their pocketbook.
     
  7. Triumph

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    I forgot to mention I'll start it off by anyone (Bruno's) charging $59.00/1000 primers.

    So, which retailers are being very fair about pricing?
     
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    Well if you have a degree in economics like you say then you must remember ECON 101 where supply and demand was introduced. You should also have learned that when any product is in short supply the price increases. Again ECON 101.

    What I see is just more complaing about prices from an unprepared person. I will say that I too got caught short but I've managed to add 6,000 rounds of 9mm to my stash these last 3 months and all at prices in the 22 cents to 24 cents a round. Sometimes it was one box of 50 rounds once a week and sometimes it was a bulk box of 1,000. All it took was a little time and effort to find it.

    People need to spend less time complaining and more time looking for what they need. Honestly I'm tired of all the crying coming from "adults".

    Same goes for reloading supplies.
     
  9. Triumph

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    Good job!
     
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    One thing I can say is that while delivery time frame has increased a bit, most of lead bullet casters like Missouri, Dardas, MasterCast, ZCast, etc. have not increased their bullet prices during the current shortage.

    Rocky Mountain Reloading also has not price gouged and still offering free shipping on all orders (maybe that's why he's almost sold out). ;)

    Looks like Powder Valley is starting to get some powders in and pricing looks similar to pre-out of stock days (8 lbs of WST/WSF for $124/$125).

    Widener's got some Alliant powders in like Bullseye and selling 8 lb jug for $113.

    Gamaliel's prices have been good with fast shipping. Today (Wednesday), I received an order I placed on Sunday, 3/31/13. That's only 3 days!
     
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    Speak of the angel, bds has a killer thread on where to get what.
     
  12. Triumph

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    He is an Angel! bds has been helping everyone out Big Time!
     
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    Supply & demand crap. :p
     
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    Scheels Sporting Goods is NOT gouging on powder.
    Bought a pound of Tite Group - $17.99

    But the only primers they had in Appleton, WI was lg rifle magnum.
     
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    How do you know when a retailer is gouging their customers or when a distributor is gouging their retailers or when the manufacturer is gouging their distributors? Or all of the above?
     
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    Ammunitionstore.com off the top of my head. $59.99 for Wolf Primers, come on...
     
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    And when those YOU deem to have been "gougers" have supplies when you need them and those others do not the next time - you will do without rather than get some?

    I doubt it...
    I will buy from any source that has what I want at a price I am willing to pay
    If you think prices are coming down to pre election prices, you won't be seeing that any time (if at all) soon
     
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    When places like PV, Wideners, Brownells, and nachez haven't raised prices it says manufacturers haven't either.

    Anyone charging double are pirates and deserve to burn for it.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    MidwayUSA and NatchezSS seem to be holding their prices pretty well. They're out of most supplies, especially anything approaching a military caliber, but I haven't seen their prices increase. I did note this morning that Midway has some Lee .223 dies in stock once again.

    And, yes, I have a long memory. I will never again spend as much as a single penny with Cheaper Than Dirt. In my opinion, they have been one of the worst.
     
  23. Constrictor

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    There is no price gouging. This is hobby supplies.
     
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    That was the stupidest thing I ever seen said. Don't take that the wrong way though.
     
  25. Constrictor

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    Sorry guy but you are incorrect. Supply and demand at work. Just like the gold sellers aren't gouging they are selling for current market value.
     
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