Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Price of caps up too. Silly me.

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Tallbald, Mar 11, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Tallbald

    Tallbald Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2009
    Messages:
    645
    Location:
    Southern KY
    I passed on $4.75 per hundred caps yesterday (CCI mag #11) thinking they were about $1 too high per tin. Went to another shop miles away only to find Dynamit-Noble caps running almost $8.00 per tin. I know about price increases in everything else, and all the associated costs rising, but am I way out of touch to be looking for $3.50 per tin? The caps were more expensive than magnum primers for cartridge loading! What's a budding BP lover to do? Don
     
  2. Mike OTDP

    Mike OTDP Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,706
    Location:
    Somewhere in Maryland
    Shoot flintlock :)

    Seriously, I'm paying $60/1,000. Sometimes, you can get a large order (50,000 or more) together with a group and get a discount.
     
  3. ClemBert

    ClemBert Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2009
    Messages:
    1,168
    Location:
    Orlando
    $4.99 at the local Gander Mountain for Remington or CCI/Winchester. Been that way for years.
     
  4. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

    kwhi43@kc.rr.com Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    2,153
    I'll be picking up another 20,000 at Friendship this year. Last year they were
    36.00 a thousand. I know they won't be over 41.00
     
  5. arcticap

    arcticap Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,185
    Location:
    Central Connecticut
    A local distributor's current catalog lists CCI #10's, #11's & #11M's for $194.50 & $197.25 respectively for a case of 1,000 caps. And that's not including any state sales tax.
    A $2 profit margin now days doesn't help to pay much overhead for those with a storefront I guess. And that profit margin is only if they can pick them up in person. If they need to pay for the Hazmat fee to get them shipped to their store then that increases the cost.
    The last time that I received a deal was at a gun show when I happened to find a case of some very old Remington caps for $15.00.
    But there's still a fee to enter the gun show and the expense to drive there. :)
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2011
  6. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

    kwhi43@kc.rr.com Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    2,153
    You sure that isn't the price for 5,000 ? They wholesale here for 38.00 a m
    and retail about 41-45 a M. The disturbeter pays about 30.00 a M
     
  7. mykeal

    mykeal Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Messages:
    5,147
    Location:
    Michigan
    That can't be right; must be 5,000. Even Cabela's is only charging $50/1000.
     
  8. arcticap

    arcticap Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,185
    Location:
    Central Connecticut
    You're both right, that is for a case of 5000.
    And even $4 a tin seems to be a high distributor's price.
    No wonder they're closing down their warehouse at the end of the month.
     
  9. Pancho

    Pancho Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2007
    Messages:
    1,874
    Location:
    Southwestern, Ohio out in the country about 40 mil
    Face it guys if you want stuff local and easy to get you better pay the extra little and encourage your local merchant to stock it. Consider all the costs when making a purchase.
     
  10. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

    kwhi43@kc.rr.com Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    2,153
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2011
  11. arcticap

    arcticap Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,185
    Location:
    Central Connecticut
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2011
  12. ClemBert

    ClemBert Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2009
    Messages:
    1,168
    Location:
    Orlando
    Once you slap on the hazmat fee and shipping you are back to where you started or even higher than the $4.99 at the local Gander Mountain. However, if you are placing a large order for powder with all your buds and slap some caps on top of the order it could work to your advantage.
     
  13. mykeal

    mykeal Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Messages:
    5,147
    Location:
    Michigan
    I believe (not sure about this) that they won't ship powder and caps together, thus requiring two :what: shipping charges and two :eek: hazmat charges. :cuss:
     
  14. arcticap

    arcticap Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,185
    Location:
    Central Connecticut
    Powder Valley is pretty clear that they will ship powder and primers together:

     
  15. makos_goods

    makos_goods Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    327
    Location:
    A state of wonderment
    Arcticap,
    I wasn't aware that Powder Valley sold Black Powder. Have they started?

    ~Mako
     
  16. junkman_01

    junkman_01 member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,728
    Location:
    Florida
    I do not see BP on Powder Valley's website. But then again, articap knows everything and he didn't say they would ship BLACK powder and primers together!
     
  17. arcticap

    arcticap Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,185
    Location:
    Central Connecticut
    Mako, Mykeal didn't specify black powder and neither did I.

    In checking with the Graf & Sons website, I learned they do charge 2 hazmat fees if ordering black powder and caps at the same time. But not when ordering a substitute powder with caps.
    So it must not be legal to ship black powder in the same package with caps.
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2011
  18. frontiergander

    frontiergander Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    798
    $10 per 100 for remington #11 caps. 209 primers are much cheaper.
     
  19. makos_goods

    makos_goods Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    327
    Location:
    A state of wonderment
    Arcticap,
    I guess I'm just confused, this is a Black Powder forum. If someone is buying percussion caps then why would they be concerned about them shipping with nitro powders?

    Now if someone knows of a business that will ship BP and caps together under one hazmat fee then let us all know.

    Powder Inc. comes the closest but they only sell musket caps. They have all of their prices set with the hazmat fee already built in. I wish they would start selling Remington caps.

    ~Mako
     
  20. arcticap

    arcticap Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,185
    Location:
    Central Connecticut
    Powder Valley sells a variety of powders which are discussed in the context of this Blackpowder shooting forum.
    Pyrodex and 777 aren't nitro powders?
    I've posted about Powder Valley's low sub. powder prices before.
    Some folks reload for & shoot multiple guns across the entire spectrum of the THR forum including inlines, with 777, and also with the new Blackhorn 209 powder for which they're among the lowest priced.
    And they load cartridges for conversion cylinders with powders other than black powder too.
    But you already knew that, as well as the fact that not everyone on this board loads using black powder.
    I guess that folks should try to maximize whatever hazmat fees they are paying to the fullest extent possible.
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2011
  21. scrat

    scrat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2007
    Messages:
    6,882
    Location:
    Monrovia, CA
    when the prices started to rise a few years ago i bought 10,000 so im still sitting PRERRY :)
     
  22. makos_goods

    makos_goods Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    327
    Location:
    A state of wonderment
    hmmmm...I guess if you lived in a locality that prohibited BP or you couldn't buy it locally, etc.

    I'm actually familiar with Triple Seven, Black Mag3, Clear Shot, APP, Pinnacle and Pyrodex. As you also know some of those aren't available anymore. Over the years I've tried the last four. My impression is that it was sort of like kissing your sister...

    Yeah, yeah I know they may have some charcoal or another carbon based fuel like a carborized sugar. Some even have traces of sulfur and potassium nitrate in them, or in the case of Pyrodex it is a desensitized "BP."

    What amazes me we will spend days talking about the best lubricants for BP, or whether or not BP is compatible with different petroleum products and someone doesn't even blink when we just shift gears in the middle of a discussion and you could be talking about almost anything and not true BP.

    In fact several of the afore mentioned powders actually behave more like smokeless powders when it comes to cleaning and and lubrication requirements. And here we sit talking about things more specific to the actual holy black.

    I was just disappointed, the reason I know they (Powder Valley) didn't sell BP is that I went and looked hoping they did. Because BP along with caps with a single hazmat fee would actually be useful.

    Regards,
    Mako
     
  23. GaryNConcord

    GaryNConcord Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2010
    Messages:
    15
    I read this thread earlier tonight, and just happened to pick up a Cabelas shooting flyer that came in the mail yesterday. On the front page beside a listing for primers: Shipping regs require primers and powder, even if on the same order, to be shipped in separate packages. My emphasis and paraphrasing. Now this was in reference to some small rifle primers, but I'd have to guess it'd hold for caps and BP. The note went on to say there would be two separate $20 hazmat charges with shipping fees.
     
  24. arcticap

    arcticap Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,185
    Location:
    Central Connecticut
    edit
     
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2011
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page