Nolo
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What are the prices of common Mil-Surp bolt action rifles like the SMLE, the Mosin, or the Mauser?
Prices of Mil-Surps
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karlsgunbunker
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Nolo
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I think I'm going to get an M38 Mosin. Not sure, though.
jacobhh
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This is a very subjective topic. It amazes me how
consistent the prices are I hear quoted on this forum.
It's as if everyone got togrther this year and fixed
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I frequently visit the auction sites and I haven't seen
either a $300 Mauser nor a $200 Enfield I would want
in a long time The Mosin's are $100 but they were $50
a year ago. Like I said, subjective, and so is my opinion.
The only thing I'd bet the farm on is that the days of cheap
(less than a new Savage) desirable WWII Milsurps are rapidly
coming to an end. Do some on-line research and evaluation.
My advice is to buy the best quality you can afford,
even a Mosin and you won't feel like you 'got burnt.'
consistent the prices are I hear quoted on this forum.
It's as if everyone got togrther this year and fixed
the response.
I frequently visit the auction sites and I haven't seen
either a $300 Mauser nor a $200 Enfield I would want
in a long time The Mosin's are $100 but they were $50
a year ago. Like I said, subjective, and so is my opinion.
The only thing I'd bet the farm on is that the days of cheap
(less than a new Savage) desirable WWII Milsurps are rapidly
coming to an end. Do some on-line research and evaluation.
My advice is to buy the best quality you can afford,
even a Mosin and you won't feel like you 'got burnt.'
KiltedClaymore
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i saw an ad for Big 5 today and they were selling m-44s for $140... ON SALE!!!! the regular price listed was $200! and to think i picked my m-38 up at a gunshow for $79 including tax. came with a sling, oiler, ammo pouch, cleaning kit, and that little screwdriver thing. puts Brown Bear fmj's in groups under quarters with open sites at 75 yards. guess i got lucky.
jacobhh
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It's location. I've seen nice 4 bdrm 2 bath homes in the Southwest
that you could buy for the price of 1/4 acre of weeds in suburban Virginia.
The internet market is the only leveler.
jacobhh
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I just looked on classic arms and saw one of their nice, many
other exclamatories, functioning rifles one pictured and featured!
for only $319 plus shipping and transfer at Your FFL. Nicely
marked with Waffens and all. Also marked with crossed rifles
(Russian Capture). Five'll get you ten it's beautiful bore is
counterbored beyond the sight band, the stock looks like driftwood
thats been slopped over with spar varnish. That nice blue is for
sure Soviet or importer paint . You're right nobody would put that
thing in a safe.
KiltedClaymore
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ah, but when did you buy it?
Ash
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As far as Mausers, you cannot price them without knowing much, much more. As a historian, the Russian Capture K98k's are really great buys because they have, yes that's right, history. These were at the Battle of Stalingrad, Leningrad, Kursk, many other un-named places, they fought in Poland and into down-town Berlin. Chances are you won't get an SS rifle, but what's so great about the SS other than rarity? No, the RC's won't be the best K98k's out there, but they have history and they aren't in bad shape. If they are counterbored (ignore exaggerations), that is because their crowns were bad. Without counterboring, they probably would be minute-of-barn shooters. Now, they are restored to their original capabilities. And they are real deal, completely-legitimate K98k's carried by the Germans and used in WWII combat. Yes, they are. Yes, they are completely legitimate. No, they are not as they left the factory, but they are affordable and will command much higher prices down the road.
But, they are not the only mausers out there. Yugo Mausers are much, much cheaper, as are Turkish Mausers. Both of these (unless you get a 93 Turk) are 98 actions (but the Turk is a true 98 action whereas the Yugo's are a bit short). In any case, they can be had for half $300 or less.
Ash
But, they are not the only mausers out there. Yugo Mausers are much, much cheaper, as are Turkish Mausers. Both of these (unless you get a 93 Turk) are 98 actions (but the Turk is a true 98 action whereas the Yugo's are a bit short). In any case, they can be had for half $300 or less.
Ash
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Great point Ash. Consider the fact before the CMP began releasing M1 Carbines, an import marked complete mixmaster could fetch $600. All things considered, their condition wasn't all that different than the R/C K98s.
Considering an all matching non-import marked K98 can bring $1200 easy, and the same in an Inland M1 won't bring much more than that, R/C K98s are the "best deal in town", IMHO.
doc2rn
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I went to the Gun Show in Topeka, Ks the other day and did not see one Mossin for less than $225. There where 8 of them out. It must be about the location I see better deals online!
KiltedClaymore
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that is......dare i say....a stupid price for what is basicly a $80 rifle?! what is the world coming to?
jefnvk
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Dunhams has had Mosins for $59 within the last two or three weeks. they are $69 today.
Enfields are $129 at Century
RC K98's can be had around $200, Yugo and Czech Mausers for less than that.
SKS's are still around $150.
Steyr Carbines are often under $100 at Dunhams
Nagant Revolvers still run $69
There are still quite a few good deals out there.
Enfields are $129 at Century
RC K98's can be had around $200, Yugo and Czech Mausers for less than that.
SKS's are still around $150.
Steyr Carbines are often under $100 at Dunhams
Nagant Revolvers still run $69
There are still quite a few good deals out there.
jacobhh
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I agree, but if you want to turn them into a nice shooter it
can take some work.
Bought this byf43 for $350 at a shop. It's an RC; had a varnished stock,
mismatched etched bolt, counterbored 'bout 1.5" but I loved the history
and the fine Mauser engineering.
My old eyes can't use those Mauser sights anymore so I scoped it
(Burris 2x7 handgun on an S&K no drill mount)and stripped off the varnish
and oil finished it so my skin wouldn't stick to the stock. It grouped
about 8" at 50 yds. I felt it could do better. I hacksawed the barrel
off behind the front sight ring, filed it down to good rifling and resurfaced
the muzzle square. That's it, the importer at least hadn't painted it. No
bedding, military trigger. I sighted the scope in at 50 yds to shoot 100
with eight rounds. The final group of four was under 1" and three of those
were in the same hole.
Bubbaed? maybe, but I'm no museum curator, I shoot and this old piece
of history won't be collecting dust. Total cost: about $690 tax & transfer
included. The scope & mount is 250 of that.
I'll load another 20 and have 32 rounds for 100 yds. this weekend.
Maybe I'll save some of those and try 200 yds. the next time.
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MustangHowie
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I looked at a few M1 carbines the other day. Century imports for $700.
They made my RC K98 look new. Why are M1 carbines and Garands so expensive for such poor examples. I have a carbine, but would like one for my wife and one for my son. I would also like to find a Garand for my collection. The ones that I find are a lot more than I want to pay for ones that look that bad.
They made my RC K98 look new. Why are M1 carbines and Garands so expensive for such poor examples. I have a carbine, but would like one for my wife and one for my son. I would also like to find a Garand for my collection. The ones that I find are a lot more than I want to pay for ones that look that bad.yesit'sloaded
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mosins-around $130 for 91/30s around $90 for m44s
Enfields-around $200
Mausers-from $120 to stupid money
Arisakas- around $100 to $200
mosins-around $130 for 91/30s around $90 for m44s
Enfields-around $200
Mausers-from $120 to stupid money
Arisakas- around $100 to $200
jefnvk
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Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, etc.
That, and they are marked US.
Oh, and short ofthe SKS, name me one other surplus semi-auto that is less than about $400.
History. Those are the guns that won WWII. Many folks have (had) fathers and grandfathers who carried them valiantly into battle, emerging victorious. The Garand also shoots a very common, powerful round while the Carbine is cheap to reload for and a pleasure to shoot.
I have a Garand. I cannot name a modern gun I've handled that feels as substantial as an M1.
The best place to look for M1 rifles and carbines is the CMP at www.odcmp.com. Prices start at $500 for complete guns and go up from there. However, the CMP puts out a VERY nice product and they do it for a good cause. Some are cosmetically a little rough, but that can be remedied relatively quickly, easily, and cheaply.
Cosmoline
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The answer is "it depends." There are several dozen major types of Mosin-Nagant and hundreds of different military Mausers. You can go from a rare Venezuelan Olympic team Mauser worth a grand to some beat up Russian capture K-98k worth a few hundred or a Turk worth less than a C note. The carbines alone comprise dozens of subtypes and can be worth a mint. I know less about the Enfields, but I believe the same applies there, although from what I've seen they have a higher bottom range from about $250 to $300 and a lower top range, with fewer ultra rare subtypes.
I would strongly advise to wait on that unless you see some minty carbine with a perfect bore and no counterbore. The rifles to buy NOW are Finnish Mosin-Nagants and Swiss K-31's and Schmidt-Rubins. The Soviet Mosins are probably the third most commonly produced rifles in world history after the AK-47 and SKS. Over 25 million were made, so they're not going to run out anytime soon.
What kind of Mosins were they, though. That could be a heck of a deal depending on what you were looking at.
32 Magnum
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I work with a FFL Dealer who buys East Bloc milsurps wholesale from CAI. He has been informed by CAI, that the supply of these rifles is just about depleted - get em while you can. As to the Yugo 59/66s, which were so plentiful over the past couple years, CAI has made their last shipments to dealers as of the end of September - if you didn't get a cheaply priced one before, you better get one soon - prices on all the Easter bloc milsurp pieces will be rising faster than the price of gasoling by next January, if not sooner.
KiltedClaymore
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crap!!!! birthday isnt until December!!!! Quick! help me think of reasons to get another milsurp!
I'm talking retail and gun show prices here, but what I see are Mosins going for around $100. You can get them as low as $80 though if you look. Finn's start at around $225 and go up to around $350. Ishapore 2A's are around $200, but that might come down as one of the surplus dealers is offering C&R's for $99. #4 mk1's start at around $175 and can go up to $300 or more depending on make and condition. Yugo Mausers in good condition start at around $150 and go up to maybe $220. Russian capture K98's are around $225. Turks are around $100. K31's are around $170.
Then you get into the collectible stuff. Things like matching K98's, Arisakas with intact mums and '03 Springfields. Prices can get stupidly high for that stuff.
Then you get into the collectible stuff. Things like matching K98's, Arisakas with intact mums and '03 Springfields. Prices can get stupidly high for that stuff.
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