Prices, what will they do?

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Assuming that the government will not pass anything what do you think will happen to ammo and gun prices once inventories get back to normal? I don't mean private sales, what I mean is Prices at the distributor level and retail level.
 
Probably go back to slightly higher than they were before the Sandy Hook shooting and level out there. It seems like every time there's a scare prices eventually come down but never to the same level as before the source of the panic.
 
I hope they return to the prices they were sadly I don't see this happening :banghead:
 
I agree, the prices will slowly come down to just above what they were pre tragedy.
 
Yep. If the first-term-election-panic is any guide to us, after about 8 months prices will begin to slide downward but will never hit the point they were at before the panic began.
 
I agree, the prices will slowly come down to just above what they were pre tragedy.

And won't all those folks who paid 2 grand for an $800 rifle be happy...
 
So say I am someone trying to build my first AR that, as fate would have it, ordered my complete upper the day of the CT shootings. I have been pondering the idea at selling my new upper for far more than I paid but I really do want to complete my first AR build. Should I sell and use the proceeds for future purchases? How long till we get "normal" prices again? Or should I just hold it and count myself lucky at getting ahold of it for cheap? I dont want to wait years before I can get ahold of an AR.
 
I think the highest it can go is where the market takes it. Remember 4 or 5 years ago when AR's were in the 2 grand and up range? It willgo as high as people are willing to pay. I see prices going to 05-06 levels, and coming down to where they are now. The real AR fever is over, now you really have to be either a die hard shooter, or a young man growing up ready to take the plunge into his first rifle of this type.
 
You have to wonder...........after this is over and the dust settles are we going to see a whole bunch of used Ar's for sale. I think the majority of AR's being sold now are going to folks that have no idea on what they are buying and after the "ban" is a flop they will be trying to sell off what they have.
 
IF no ban happens, then prices will return to previous levels...plus about 3%-5%.

My recollection of the previous ban prices is related to an ad I saw in the shotgun news at the time. I was studying SKS prices at the time because I was considering getting one. I remember before the ban SKS prices were around $99 for a rifle. After legislation passed there was a 6 month, I believe, period before the stipulations of the ban went into effect. From the day it passed til the day of the stipulations coming into force, that 6 months, was Crazy Time. SKS's went up to $400. Magazines went up 500 or 600% in some cases. After the ban passed, it was realized that manufacturers could "beat" the provisions on "assault rifle" production by removing bayonet lugs and flash hiders or pistol grips and continue to make firearms that fired semi automatically and used the old style hi capacity clips. So the "ban" did little to stop production of semi auto firearms that could use already produced hi cap mags. Once that was realized, crazy time was largely over. Magazine prices still stayed high, because they WERE barred from producing any new hi cap mags, but as long as you kept new springs and followers in the mag bodies you could refurbish old mags. But rifle prices dropped back considerably.

That won't happen this time. The first ban was ineffective at hitting the guns they wanted banned. They won't make that mistake again. New production semi autos I think will be only for police and military. Some 5 rd fixed magazine sporting 30-06 in semi auto and such might be allowed, but detachable magazine designs I think would be outlawed, or set at the 10rd mag level.

This means that guns which are grandfathered in will not only STAY high, but will INCREASE in price. How do I know this? Because the same thing happened to machine guns when they were restricted. It was a bit before my time but I've heard that you use to be able to mail order machine guns and they were not the equivalent of buying a luxury car. If you can find machine guns now that are less than 10K you are doing well, I understand. If no new AR15's, AK47s etc are being allowed to be made, then the prices on the existing ones can only go up as old ones wear out and the supply diminishes.

So, my opinion, if a ban passes and it followed the same process as last time (it will not, this ban will be far more extensive) prices on rifles and magazines will go up about 400 percent from their prices say a month ago within the first couple of weeks of the ban's passage. I've already seen AR15's go from 800 at Walmart to 2,000 the other day at the gunshow. 2.5 times as much. If a ban happens, expect those prices to double. Or let's use the "400%" measure. AR15's would go to around $3200 each. AK's to around $2000 each. SKS around $1500-1600. And unlike the last ban in 94, there will be no new rifles being made to act as a substitute arm. Prices on these will remain high until the ban is removed and new firearms made. It's a relatively simple concept in economics. Supply--demand.

My personal opinion is that the House a magazine ban is entirely possible, as well as a ban on new production "assault" rifles. Registration, everyone doing background checks etc is the thing the Administration can bargain away in order to appear "compromising". But the ban on hi cap mags and rifles...yeah, I think that is coming.
 
Aesop's Fable of the "Grasshopper and the Ant"

Edit: Quote from that fable "It is wise to worry about tomorrow today."
 
Domestic produced rifles will go down, but I suspect imports like the FN Scar will stay high due to fears of the President issuing executive order affecting trade if a ban is not passed.
 
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