Primer Ignition Device to replace Percussion Cap

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  1. Snidely70431

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    I found these illustrations in Ned Robert's "The Muzzle-Loading Cap Lock Rifle. The drawing was provided to Mr Roberts by Mr. Wm. V. Lowe.

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    These are pictures of the Primer Ignition Device installed on a Brockway Rifle.

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  2. brewer12345

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    There is a similar device designed to work with 209 shotgun primers, I believe it is called mag spark. Haven't looked in a while, but they were still being sold a few years ago.
     
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  3. Blackpowderwarrior

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    I have a mag spark that ive never used, its very well made.
     
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    I got a 1,000 209 primers that I don’t know why I bought
     
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  5. Snidely70431

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    In Robert's book, he mentioned that Primer Ignition Devices were also made that used shotgun (209) primers. In today's climate of uncertain availability of primers of any sort, IMHO, it would be useful to have Primer Ignition Devices of various sorts so one could shoot no matter what sort of primers were available, or not.
     
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  6. brewer12345

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    Pick up a cheap in line and try it.
     
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    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
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    Quick!!! Cover your ears Hawg !! Cover your ears !!!!!

    Mike
     
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    Oooo dang! if I did, and might for S&G’s but… would never post or admit it. My buddies here would put me on IGNORE quicker that a Hot Swap cylinder
     
  10. brewer12345

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    Eh, worth a try. I picked one up to fool with. I really prefer my caplocks and round ball, but I don't regret trying or owning one. They feel too much like a single shot centerfire rifle chambered in .50 Shoulderpain, but I can see the appeal for people who don't really get their kicks playing with smokepoles but still want to hunt in ML seasons. I am keeping mine (scoped!) because I occasionally need something other than a .22 or shotgun to hunt stuff like turkeys or beavers on properties where I can't have a centerfire rifle. While I would rather use a round ball gun for that stuff, some shots require a scope with my awful eyesight and I am not putting one on a sidelock.
     
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    Blasphemy...
    ... how cheap :uhoh:
     
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  12. brewer12345

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    Couple hundred bucks. Worse come to worst, it is a loaner.
     
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    Come to Mississippi. I seriously doubt you will find a new one but you can most likely pick up a used one for less than 100.
     
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    Eh the one I have is plenty. Brand new in box with scope, mount, second breech plug. But, yeah, used a hundred bucks will get you one.
     
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    Pedersoli makes a similar 209 conversion. I got a few years ago when they were a bit cheaper. Figured they'd come in handy at some point. Nice to have options.
    https://shop.davide-pedersoli.com/en/indoor/912-primer-nipple-conversion-from-11-to-209.html
     
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    I want to try one… just to shoot those Crazy looking .50cal Sabot bullets. What kidda ballistic can you do with those ugly guns? looks like they can take a elephant
     
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  17. brewer12345

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    If I wanted to take an elephant I would load a solid bullet in my 58.

    The 50 cal inline shot pretty well with a 370 grain Maxie ball. Plenty for an elk.
     
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    why do I want one so bad!!! sorry @hawg
     
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    Because you have an open mind, and believe you could enjoy old school and modern muzzleloaders at the same time. I have time for both as well.
     
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    They are out there. Pick one up and see what you think.
     
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    I literally been missing out!!! It reminds me of when were kids and taking fireworks apart for powder and makings pvp morders and radio control stuff zi can’t really talk about! lol
     
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  22. brewer12345

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    Thus far I have resisted buying some cannon fuse, even though I don't own a cannon...
     
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    No Comment! LOL…and pay in cash. Nothing the AFT like more than people buying cannon fuse
     
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    I finally did...:evil: no complaints... and still no cannon.
     
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    dear AFT … I don’t like Canon fuse!!! lol
     
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