Primers won't ignite

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I had some cci primers that would no go bang and guys said it was because of the encore not having a strong enough hammer strike and cci are hard they recommended federal and haven't had a problem since my guide gun shoots cci fine but may wanna try a softer primer just incase
Any firearm in good operation condition will ignite any primer. The same CCI primers we buy are used in CCI, Blaser and Speer factory ammo since all are under the ATK blanket. Federal is also part of ATK but as we know they have their own primers.
 
Even though primers are rarely defective they could have been damaged after they left the factory. It sure sounds like contaminated primers or powder to me, especially since the rifle fires the factory ammo just fine.
 
Look for a recipe called "lithi-bee" I use this with a bit of carnauba wax & lanolin .

If all else fails when ya make ya lube roll a small ball & place it on cardboard thru the temps incountered & see if any leaks on the cardboard .

Or just cantact White Label Lubes & order some Carnauba Red.It needs a little heat (100-105f) to flow but it works & I can`t make my own as cheap as they sell there`s !!

Since `81 I`ve had 3 misfires , 1 was missing powder(reloading tired/sleepy) & 2 with contaminated powder from Lymans Ideal (the black moly stuff) on cast boolits sitting in the tool box on the truck in the sunshine.
 
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Just use wire cutter and a short PVC pipe section to pull them. You will have to recast them as they are resized on loading. Although the 30-30 was designed to head space off the rim - it doesn't! Don't bother arguing cause you would be wrong. Check your sizer die and set it for the longest HS that will chamber, minus a few thou. for tolerance.
 
Although the 30-30 was designed to head space off the rim - it doesn't! Don't bother arguing cause you would be wrong.

Thanks popper. My headspace post earlier was based on my own personal experience, just didn't want to make a big deal out of it.
 
I have yet buy a bullet puller... gonna have to now.

I reloaded cast bullet for the .30-.30. Plain based 170 grain fn bullet. Cast out of wheelweights. Used 9.5 grains of unique over CCI Large Rifle Primer. Primed on the press using Lee Priming Unit. Most did not fire. Those that did showed great accuracy.

Primers are from the same batch. They appear to be seated deep (can't get any deeper and they are below flush with the case head). Tried to reload the same cartridges multiple times without any luck. Normal indention on the primer when compared with the ones that did fire.

The rifle is a Marlin 336c .30-.30.

Only thing I can think of is to use my Lee Hand Primer to load them to see if priming on the press is my problem, but it hasn't been a problem in the past.

What could be causing the problem? (hoping RC answers since he has a plethora of expertise).
I have had some CCI 300 that does not fire. I dump then in some oil then trash them. WILL NOT buy any more CCI
 
Wow, I've never had a mis-fire in over 30 years of reloading, including for the 30-30. And as to CCI, I use them about 95% of the time.
GS
 
I have had some CCI 300 that does not fire. I dump then in some oil then trash them. WILL NOT buy any more CCI

Can't say I've NEVER had a primer misfire, I know for a fact I have. Have no idea what the brand was tho. I've reloaded 100's of thousands of ammo over the last 50 years that I've been reloading.

If I never bought any thing that ever gave me a problem, by today I'd not be able to buy anything!

All companies have flub-ups. Such is life.
 
If I never bought any thing that ever gave me a problem, by today I'd not be able to buy anything!

All companies have flub-ups. Such is life.

I would say so. But we don't know if the primers here are even at fault.
The OP hasn't posted anything indicating that yet.

I'm waiting to hear what he figures out.
 
Gonna have to standby for a report of findings. I wont have range time till monday. Will prime 10 cases without bullet or propellant first to see what it does when fired.
 
Wasn't able to get to the range and only had limited "man cave" time, but I pulled all the bullets, dumped all powder, and deprimed a few cases. Looks like the primers were seated deeper on the ones that wouldn't fire than those that did fire. They were well below flush. Never had this happen when priming on the press with the .44 magnum. I do all other priming off the press. Looks like I'll need to start doing all my priming off the press.

Gonna compare the inside of the primers that didn't fire to a fresh primer and see what I notice.
 
Wouldn't it be pretty simple to just test the primers, without powder and bullets, to see if the primers are the problem? Just prime some cases and fire them off. IF they go "pop", it's not the primers, or, as has been mentioned, your KY is ruining the mix.

That doesn't seem like a lot of powder for a 30-30. Is there a danger of KB, or is that just internet lore?
 
Plan on charging and firing 10 primed cases after my trip to the VA hospital tomorrow. Having trouble walking right now.

Also plan on casting and loading up 50 rounds this weekend to rule out the theory of the Lube neutralizing the primers.

With cast plain based bullets, I'm keeping my velocities under 1500fps. Unique works great in small amounts for this. I also use it in my .30-.06, m91/30, .44, and 9mm. Gotta love versatility. These are my plinking rounds...for defense/hunting I use different projectiles and propellants.
 
Just had 2 Remington Small Rifle primers that refused to ignite.

The primer strike is just as deep as those that ignited.
So it wasn't a case of not being set deep enough.

Sometimes poop occurs.
 
Thanks for all the help guys. I was crushing the primers on the press. Once I eliminated that variable and primed with a hand tool, I've had no more problems.
 
Thats good to hear the issue has been found. I've hand primed on the couch for years,I've never cared for doing it in on the press.
No need to change your lube as long as your not getting any leading either.
 
I have yet buy a bullet puller... gonna have to now.

No shame in that.
Almost all of us have had to buy one.
Most of us because of our own mistakes.

You can't help it if you ran into some bad primers.
 
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