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(PRNJ) Civilian obtains CCW permit!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Nathaniel Firethorn, Aug 12, 2004.

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  1. Nathaniel Firethorn

    Nathaniel Firethorn Member

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    In PRNJ, this is news on the order of a Biblical miracle! Doubly so because it came out of a PRNJ courtroom.

    http://njo.com/news/expresstimes/nj/index.ssf?/base/news-5/1092314139117720.xml

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  2. raz-0

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    simply amazing.
     
  3. Col. Mustard

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    Amazing, but...

    ...there are still a couple of problems. First, of course, is the fact that he may only legally carry on the ship or in the docks. That's kind of a limited victory. A victory, to be sure, but..

    The larger problem is, will the CT or NY police waiting for him on the dock when he reaches his destination? I'm guessing CT and NY do not recognize out-of-state permits (they don't recognize mine, at any rate), and it wouldn't take much detective work for a gun-grabbing DA to anticipate this guy's arrival in his state.
     
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    permit

    NY he might be able to get a permit in NYC as he conducts business there. CT is no problem. They are a shall issue state for Non-residents. See

    www.packing.org for more details.
     
  5. geekWithA.45

    geekWithA.45 Moderator Emeritus

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    So, that makes it 651 carry permits in NJ, and that had to basically be extracted at lawyerpoint.

    Big bleeping whoop.

    Note: NJ actually will issue heavily restricted, work related permits for armed guards. This is only a very slight variation on that.

    As for "opening the floodgates" to permit applications, perhaps so. Gunking up the courts with permit applications till they surrender might work, except for the fact that there's only about 300 guys in NJ who are even vaguely aware of the situation.
     
  6. gunsmith

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    Entitled

    Entitled?! that really angers me,the arrogance of these bureaucrats.
    If we had a Constitution,I wonder if things would be different:rolleyes:

    I was talking to a guy from Vineland NJ a week or two ago,I told him I would never even visit my relatives in NJ because they have even worse then what I have to deal with here in occupied CA.
    He said NJ isn't that bad,theres a rifle and shotgun club right down the street.
    So,I asked him you can go to the store and buy a Colt .45 and keep it in your car and house and carry it concealed with no problem? He said no, "I guess handguns are an entirely different thing"
    And he had never even considered buying one. These kind of things make me think moving only puts a bandaid on the problem,lots of Californians are moving to free state for economic reasons but they are taking the anti gun attitudes with them...

    I am glad this guy got his ccw but all the hoops and limitations and "entitled" public servants....:banghead: :cuss: :fire:
     
  7. Tony Mig

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    I seriously thought about applying for a NJ CCW based on the fact that I drive a home heating oil delivery truck for 4 months out of the year.
    I know that the local police chief will pass it off to the district court, and the court will most likely denie me.

    Those of us who drive petrolium carrying vehicles, have been warned on several occassions to be careful, and viligent since we are a prime target for terrorists. A lot of damage can be created with a 3400 gallon tank full of fuel oil, besides the fact that I have to make deliveries in some pretty dangerous housing projects. But I know if there even is a court judge that believes in my right to self protection, he'll no doubt slap a bunch of restrictions on said permit because that's how things are done in The Democratic People's Republic of New Jersey.....

    It's just not worth my time, lost wages, and court expenses.....
     
  8. Sam Adams

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    I lived in NJ for about 38 of my 40 years, until moving 3 1/2 years ago. I'm now in TX, and I thoroughly enjoy the freedom carrying my .45. It sucks that I had to apply to exercise a right, but it was shall issue and doing it through channels instead of saying "the 2nd Amendment is my carry license" may avoid a trip to the klink and assorted other unpleasantness in the future.

    Reciprocity is also nice, and has been expanded a bit in the last year or so, and its also easy to get a Florida CHL and have reciprocity in about 30 states.

    Also nice about being out of NJ is that I can no longer be hauled off to Rahway for having some stamped-metal boxes with internal springs that some 'hole (Florio) thought was "too big" back in the early '90's.

    In short, its good to finally be (moderately) free, unlike in the PRNJ. Nothing beats the feeling of passing the "Welcome to Delaware" sign on the DMB, turning to your wife and saying "Now you won't have to bail me out of jail," and getting a look like you just popped in from Mars (I explained to her about the magazine ban, and how I had about 200 years of prison sitting 2 feet in back of us. Her response was "they don't have laws like that in Texas, do they?" I said "No, Texas is in America.").

    I'm sorry for any right-minded folks who are stuck in NJ. You're seriously outnumbered by the NYC refugees (who, perversely, vote for the very same policies that so royally f'd up NYC that they felt the need to leave :cuss: ) and the leeches who've always lived in Newark, Elizabeth, Jersey City, Camden, etc. The saddest part of all is that my folks (not gun enthusiasts, but gun owners) are moving back to NJ from Florida. Now I can't even carry while traveling to see them.
     
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    First of all,Howdy,and Welcome to Texas.
    As you know we have a lot of room here I'll extend an invitation to anyone that reads this board,that is in the occupied territories,come to Texas we welcome you.
    Warm(really its Hot)Weather not much in the way of winter here.
    No State income tax,Friendly people,The best value for your money on real estate.Good(could be better)gun laws
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    Texans,and Those that wish they were"
     
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    For those of you planning to escape...

    the underground railroad to Texas stops off @ Freedom House, a short hike from the Cmmdr. Barry Bridge.

    Refugees welcome, 24/7.
     
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