Pro-Gun Win in Vermont!

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The hamfisted overrreach by NYC's Governor helped put peoples' priorities back into perspective, too. The Sandy Hook shooting was a tragedy with a massive, visceral public reaction; but the NY-AWB is an ugly -and enduring- stain on the gun-grab movement. Gunnies will be carefully following the process of that law's trial and ultimate repeal for months/years after the anti's have grown weary of the children of Sandy Hook and callously cast them aside.


Why would LE/Gov need suppressors? Aren't they the tool of assassins? Who's the govt. assassinating???:eek:

TCB

A DHS Agent walked onto my Range about 1.5 years ago. Very nice fellow, brought his kids. Had an MP5, 5.7 FN pistol, and a Sig. Due to a bit of confusion about the range rules, he assumed he couldn't use one other item he brought: a full auto Ingram in .45 ACP, suppressed. Not sure what application it had in his duties...
 
Leahy is a shooter, and has a range at his home in Middlesex, VT.

He's also a strong proponent of all civil liberties, not just the 2A. He still has progress to make, however. He still favors an AWB. Whether or not that's a strong conviction or a political stance remains undetermined. Regardless, he's a damned sight better than Feinstein and Schumer. As is Bernie Sanders.
Leahy goes to the highest bidder. Just look at his support for PIPA after a $300k campaign contribution from the MPAA. He also wanted to make all email accessible by the government.. He is no friend of ours, but sadly people vote him in out of tradition and without researching it.
 
What gives you that idea? I am Vermonter through and through and our reality has always been that "flatlanders" move up there from CT and MA, after wrecking their own States, because of how simple and laid back we are and then try and turn us into what they left behind... So far VT has resisted.

Just feelings and attitudes I always got in Burlington and Montpelier, especially around UVM campuses. Anti-war protesters on Church street marketplace, hippies with long dreads and haven't showered since the beginning of the year. But small towns like Woodbury, Northfield, all of Washington county outside Montpelier really. Up near the Canadian border all have firearms and proud of Vermont history.
 
I am also in Healthcare and that is why we no longer live in VT. Fletcher Allan owns everything and Dartmouth owns what is left. Job prospects for a highly Skilled Nurse are slim and pay really poorly. I did interview a couple of years ago for some positions and the pay isn't even half what I make around here. Cost of living there is higher due to the States high income tax rate. We may go back once we retire. And "bleeding red" you would be in a very small minority. VT is predominantly populated by State and Federal Gov workers and they want to keep it that way. So the trend is to vote accordingly. Obama won close to 80% of the vote in November... in 2004 Howard Dean won the state and he wasn't even in the running any longer. VT is definitively a unique place.

Etereon: I agree that Burlington/Williston isn't representative of VT. But all those protesters up around UVM are usually seasonal because of the lake or college, they are not residents and don't/cant vote which is why Burlington isn't capable of overwhelming the rest of the State like happens in NY.
 
I'm a Proud Vermonter on Hiatus in NC for about another Year. VT is far more gun friendly than NC across the Board.

I was active in VT Politics for a while. Vermont as a whole is a bastion Yakee Conservatism its really only three Counties (Chittenden, Addison, and Lamoille) that have overwhelmingly Liberal populations. Hence Leahy is the FIRST Democratic Senator in VT History (and technically only) the Gov of VT is historically Rep too. Bernie wins because he gets so much publicity and is admittedly super pro-Vermont even when he's a lunatic-also is predictable, never flip flops.

Leahy really is not that bad-the NRA gives him a C. He's a seasoned prosecutor and a friend of law enforcement; has real experience and falls back on that for inspiration. He's probably the closest thing to a friend that we have in a Democrat from NE.
 
Leahy has been in his seat for nearly 40 years at this point... the political culture 40 years ago was much different than it is today... If he stepped down there is no doubt in my mind that the seat would go to another Democrat.

Bernie voted against the Brady bill in 93. These two are not your run of the mill Party politicians.

Anybody who wants to move to VT because of it's gun laws should not do so... VT also has Socialized Healthcare and the highest income taxes in the Country. It is a horrible place to live and it is dark and cold for 8 months of the year... They only have two seasons, winter and mud season... And the floods... they are really bad... you can be left without power or roads for months.

Shew... Just averted a mass migration...
 

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I don't know if this counts as a win. Did we gain anything? No, we just managed to keep things as they were.
I think we need to stop calling it a win when we just manage to hold the ground we already have. It's a win when we go on the offensive.
 
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