probation and proximity to guns

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Today, I was asked by a friend to not bring a gun with me when I'm at their house.

Oookay.

The reason given was that the dad is on probation - curfew, probation officer, the works - and is frequently there (but doesn't live there currently). He isn't allowed to be "around" guns. They claim that my concealed carry status could land him in jail should the police ever find out I had a gun in their house!?

Is that true? I'm in Ohio if that helps.
 
I do not know the specific legal answer to your question as it relates to Ohio law.

In general though, I think your friend has the right idea. As someone on probation his Dad very likely needs to stay away from firearms as a condition of his probation. While it would seem like it would be hard for him to get in trouble over *your* gun, in some circumstances I believe it could happen.

I'd not bring the gun over myself. If you'd rather make the choice to keep the gun and not go to their house, that would work as well, and actually might be the best choice.
 
Better safe than sorry, right?

If his PO is anything like the first couple I've had the displeasure of meeting, he'd likely start throwing everything related (and a few things not) he could at the judge to land the guy in jail, if he found out. Just my biased experience, but note that it's not impossible.
 
). He isn't allowed to be "around" guns. They claim that my concealed carry status could land him in jail should the police ever find out I had a gun in their house!?

IANAL ,but I believe this is incorrect.
I recently went on a 26 mile hike with a paroled felon friend of mine.A domestic violence conviction.
I carried the whole hike.As long as he didn't touch the gun, or have access ,everything was cool.
Now,we're in Florida and you're in Ohio.The law could be different.
But I doubt it.
 
I have no idead about OH laws, but IMO, its not worth the risk. I know in CA you can be violated for a single spent casing.
 
Today, I was asked by a friend to not bring a gun with me when I'm at their house.
Well, if a friend is asking you to exclude the gun when on his property, it's a good idea to comply. It's his house.
 
Really the last two posts have hit the nail on the head. I don't know how the law works can some one else's P.O search you?
 
How the law works is probably that when someone is put on probation, the court order specifies the terms. If the terms are that the father can't "possess" firearms, then your carrying a firearm is not an issue. If the terms of the probation order are that the father cannot have access to firearms, then your carrying in his home could be an issue.

The bottom line is as already covered: you have been asked not to carry when visiting that house. Either don't carry, or don't visit. Your choice.
 
Ditto the above about your friend's wishes. But, to add to the legal discussion...probation is a status with a court where a person is subject to whatever rules the court deems are appropriate (relating to the offense). The rules must be followed to avoid incarceration. NOw, the real question no one here will have the answer to are:
1. What are the rules of probation?
2. What do the rules specifically say about weapns/firearms?
3. How will the PO interpret those rules?
4. How will the judge/magistrate interpret those rules?

Biggest thing to keep in mind is this...with a criminal charge, you are innocent until proven guilty. With probation violations, you're already convicted, it's just a matter of what punishment is being imposed.
 
Thanks for the replies.

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If someone asks me not to carry on their property, that's fine.
All I wanted to know was if the legal reasoning was sound.

It just never occurred to me before that my carrying could legally jeopardize another person.

It's a hard position for the family, I know.
 
I know a guy that was a convicted felon and is still on parole. Basically he's not allowed to TOUCH a firearm, but if someone wants to carry around him, that's fine. He's come over to my house numerous times to fix a few things as he's a general contractor.
 
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