Prof makes shopping list in case of "Speaker Pelosi"

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Who said anything about a member?

I was just pointing out that the "Prof" doesn't seem to have much of a handle on gun issues if he thinks the M1A and 1911 are high on a wish list for banning by anyone. Either that or he already has a garage full of semi-auto rifles and hi-cap pistols and just hasn't gotten around to a rifle that hasn't even been banned in California.

My judgement of "partisan hack" stands.
 
was just pointing out that the "Prof" doesn't seem to have much of a handle on gun issues if he thinks the M1A and 1911 are high on a wish list for banning by anyone. Either that or he already has a garage full of semi-auto rifles and hi-cap pistols and just hasn't gotten around to a rifle that hasn't even been banned in California.
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In its "standard" configuration, the M1A was banned in California. If he wants one he can convert to a folding stock configuration, he would have to get one now in preparation for another assault weapons ban (which prohibited modifying the M1A in this manner). Its magainzes were certainly banned, both under the AWB and the California bans. Further, 1911s not approved by the California "safety tests" have been banned as well. And the standard mags 7-8 rounds of the 1911 were considered for inclusion as high capacity feed devices under AWB II that the Dems were wanting. And both the M1A and the 1911 would be prohibited under the proposals to ban military style weapons that have been floated by the Dems.

By the way, all semiautos are "high on the wish list" for banning. Look at what they tried to do before, what they accomplished, and the statements about taking them all away if they could. Arguing that these weapons aren't on the future ban list is sort of reaching in the face of the clear evidence to the contrary.
 
Malone, do you ever, I mean, like in the entire history of this board, in all of your thousands of posts, have a single post that isn't negative?

Just curious is all. :)

I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.
 
Just curious is all.
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Oh, you could probably find a few. I just find posts that ammount to "+1" to be pretty boring.

BTW, for the record, I used to play the same role on a very liberal forum where I argued just as strongly against Clinton, later Gore, and the political hackery that went along with them, also.

But I'll bow on the technical aspects of this one.
 
So far it's clear that:

1. The sitting President has said he would sign an AWB.

2. The current GOP controlled congress has never sent him an AWB that he signed during all their years of control.

3. The leadership and most of the rank and file Democrats in the congress have stated repeatedly that they favor sending the president gun control/AWB bills to sign.

4. Thus, should the Democrats in both houses gain the majority, it's quite reasonable to believe that congress is far more likely to send an AWB to the president to be signed into law.

5. The prof in the original post is definitely NOT a bozo just for thinking the M1A type could be a target of an AWB proposal. It has clearly been targeted in similar proposals.

To conclude otherwise seems to defy logic.
 
M. Laveigh, have you even read any columns by Mike Adams? Your judgement of the man is seriously flawed.
 
I don't know why you people think the Democrats want to ban all guns? That's just absurd!

1. They don't want to ban the guns of the extreme left wing MegaMillionaire Marxists and Billioniare Bolsheviks.

2. They don't want to ban the firearms of the extremely well armed, very expensive bodyguards of the mega-rich elitists and famous Hollywood left wing celebrities.

3. They don't want to ban the firearms of the Federal cops who protect the Democrat politicians. (Republican politicians need not apply.)

4. They don't want to ban the firearms of the Police & Military who'll be used to confiscate the firearms of 80,000,000 worker peasants.

5. They don't want to ban the guns of criminals because criminals need them to make a living.

No. The Democrats only want to ban the guns of all the filthy worker peasants. :uhoh:

L.W.
 
M. Laveigh, have you even read any columns by Mike Adams?
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Not until today. Just to be certain I wasn't judging him on one bad column, I went to the linked site and looked at a few columns. He seems to be a pretty straight, party-line commenter to me, though he seems to obsess mostly on race. But I do not object to any of that. I object to his feeding the pre-election hysteria being aimed at gun owners. I feel sorry for anyone that can't see that they're being taken for a fool.
 
gentleman IF Pres Bush and VP Cheney were to be incapacited
Sec of State Rice is next in line NOT Nancy Pelosi. She is next in line after Rice I believe so don't panic yet
 
Malone's dead-nuts right. This guy is doing no more than trying to whip gun owners into a "vote R" frenzy. If you can't see for yourself that you're being played, there's nothing to discuss.
 
gentleman IF Pres Bush and VP Cheney were to be incapacited
Sec of State Rice is next in line NOT Nancy Pelosi. She is next in line after Rice I believe so don't panic yet
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Incorrect. This is the current, correct order of Presidential Succession:

The President of the United States
The Vice President of the United States
Speaker of the House
President pro tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
Secretary of the Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General
Secretary of the Interior
Secretary of Agriculture
Secretary of Commerce
Secretary of Labor
Secretary of Health and Human Services
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Energy
Secretary of Education
Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Secretary of Homeland Security
 
Anybody else notice that he sure likes Springfield Armory?

Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Yeah, kind of made me wonder....what's next? Gun magazines reviewing arms
in their articles from the same people who pay for advertising?...oh, wait....

In any case, I have one word for you when it comes to which guns to have
before the next ban: UNDERFOLDERS.
 
Joe Demko is right.

Adams is just a right-wing hack trying to whip you all up into a voting frenzy.

Democrats don't want to ban your guns.

I mean, just because the Democrats crammed the 1994 assault weapons ban down your throats (tie vote in the Senate broken by VP Al Gore himself) doesn't mean anything.

I mean the fact that Fienstein and Kennedy and Kerry tried hard to renew the AWB in 2004 doesn't mean anything.

And pay no attention at all to Kennedy arguing for an "armor-piercing ammo ban" on the floor of the Senate and using .30-30 ammo as his prime example of medium caliber, armor-piercing ammo.

And pay no attention to Schumer and Boxer and Lautenberg......it's just a coinicidence that they were all Democrats.

And Blagoivich (spelling?) and Mayor Daley and Conyers of Michigan (Last remaining congress critter serving who voted for the GCA of 1968).

No, the Democrats don't want to ban your guns.....like they did in 1994, like they have in California (silly Mike Adams, putting the M1A in as it is only "sort-of" banned in California by Democrats.....much better if he'd had put the SKS on the list instead...but hey, he likes expensive guns.)

The Democrats DO NOT want to ban your guns......Like Bill Clinton did..........You're just a bunch of fools letting some right-wing hack like Adams whip you into a non-sensical voting frenzy..........

Say it with me now....Democrats DO NOT want to ban your guns.......they may have wanted to as recently as a couple of years ago, but RIGHT NOW, they DO NOT want to ban your guns....

Everybody clear on that?

:rolleyes:

hillbilly
 
I love when you roll your eyes like that, hillbilly, it makes you look like Theda Bara. I know from your previous posts here that you are intelligent enough to know that Adams being a party hack and everything you posted about Democrats are not mutually exclusive. D and R both have hacks.
 
Joe Demko is right, AGAIN!!!!

The anti-gun stance is not purely a Democrat stance.

Here's proof

The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban passed the US House of Representatives by a vote of 216-214.

Here's the breakdown.

177 Democrats voted FOR the AWB.
38 Republicans voted FOR the AWB.

137 Republicans voted AGAINST the AWB
77 Democrats voted AGAINST the AWB.

Joe Demko is exactly right.

When it comes to banning semi-automatic, magazine-fed rifles, shotguns and pistols, Democrats are likely to vote FOR such a ban only 81.94% of the time.

That's right.....Democrats are ONLY 81.94% of those voting to ban your guns.

Heck, Republicans are only 64% of those voting to let you KEEP your semi-atuo guns. Dems who voted AGAINST the AWB made up a hefty 35% of the total "NO" votes....I mean, c'mon.....35% is like a freakin' Tidal Wave Tsunami of support, right?

So, Joe Demko is absolutely right on again.

Not ALL Democrats want to ban your guns. They made up ONLY 81.94% of the "YES" votes for the AWB back in 1994.

I mean, c'mon.....what's 81.94% when you're talking about some right-wing hack like Mike Adams?

hillbilly
 
Adams may be a hack. That's irrelevant to countering his argument.

"Speaker Pelosi" will try to push federal firearms legislation modeled after California's. Do you really doubt that to be the case, given her history, her public statements, and her past efforts? It will be one of the Democrats' top priorities, along with raising taxes. They won't force the President out of Iraq - they'll beat that marching drum until the Presidential elections in 2008.

Notice I am not saying it's a bad thing that taxes would be raised. Nor am I saying it would be a bad thing for a Democrat to be elected President in '08.

I'm not sure why some of you are so upset that others would call a white cat what it is - a white cat. The history of the Democratic Party over the last twenty years has been significantly more anti-firearms than that of the Republican Party. If your local Democrat is highly rated by GOA and the NRA, vote for them. Maybe they'll restore some sanity to their party.
 
Hillbilly knows I'm not defending Democrats, Malone, and nobody thinks you're defending Pelosi. You just have to understand that Party Faithful are constrained to always act as if being against R means you must be for D.
 
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Hey guys, a bigger concern is how the demos will use the USA patriot act, and the suspension of our other rights when they have control of congress and the White House. Do you all think Git Mo will hold all 4 million NRA members????

This Gun board may be a threat to national security as well since it provides a means of communications for us subversive gun nuts.
 
Well this bozo, meaning me, thinks the M1A might be on the list so I just ordered one.

Not sure why you think a mag fed, semi automatic, military rifle with flash supressor might make the "No No" list..... :rolleyes:
 
Does this bozo really think the M1A is on anyone's radar for a ban?
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Right, and under the original AWB my Ishapore was a forbidden assault rifle what with its 12 round detachable box magazine and dangerous bayonet lug.

Get it through your head, they want ALL guns. They'll start by driving a wedge between "good" guns and "bad" guns. Then decrease the first group and increase the second .
 
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