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PROGRADE .357 MAGNUM 200GR HARD CAST (BEAR GRADE) IN CLEAR BALLISTICS GEL.

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  1. 5pins

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    Interesting that he doesn't know whether they are still available though on the Prograde site.

    I guess, these days not finding it for sale doesn't necessarily mean that it is not produced.

    Whole lotta metal coming outa a .357.

    Todd.
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    I wonder how they would have done from a longer barrel? Those look like Veral Smith design bullets. Ross Seyfreid always spoke highly of his bullets.
     
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    I was wondering at barrel length too.

    I wonder if he was thinking a handy woods-carry hitting as hard as possible in .357 - or if it was all he had for testing.

    We have a member here who hard-carries a .357 in Alaska with a short barrel in a chest rig. Sounds right up his alley. His is a custom barreled version of the 27 series, I think.

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    How does it do on bear?
     
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  6. Dave T

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    ~ 1100 fps from a 3" barrel with that weight bullet is pushing the envelope. Wow!

    And just think, you could shoot a 6'4" bad guy on the top of his head and that bullet would come out the sole of his foot! (lol)

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    A while back I ran some loads over my then new Labradar - this is a copy and paste from a previous post -- thought it might be of interest here.

    2 ¾” M66-8 chrono results from my then new LabRadar chrono

    For Information Only, Use at Your Own Risk

    Labradar Muzzle Velocity (familiarization run)
    60 Deg F
    S&W M66-8 2.75" .357 Mag

    130gr Fed Hydra-Shok JHP "Personal Defense" PD357HS2 H …….. 1,416 fps avg (84 fps ES) -- two rounds
    140gr Underwood Xtreme Penetrator (Philips head mono metal).. 1,422 fps avg ( 5 fps ES) -- two rounds
    158gr Horn Xtp - 15.0gr A2400 Std small pistol, new Starline...… 1,316 fps avg (49 fps ES) -- six rounds
    180gr Buff Bore …………………………………………………………………………….. 1,312 fps avg ( 6 fps ES) -- two rounds
    185gr LFNGC (Beartooth), 15.0gr Lil'Gun, CCI 400 New Starline.. 1,228 fps avg (14 fps ES) – two rounds
    200gr WLNGC (leadheads), 13.4gr H110, Fed 205, New Starline.. 1,102 fps avg ( 4 fps ES) – two rounds
    200gr WLNGC (leadheads), 14.4gr H110, Fed 205, New Starline.. 1,155 fps avg ( 2 fps ES) – two rounds
    (purported to be the “Doubletap” load info)

    200gr WLNGC (leadheads) handload with Lil Gun ………………………. 1,266 fps avg ( 2 fps ES) -- two rounds
    Load data not given -- maybe too much of a good thing. Spent cases fell from chambers, and no obvious signs of over pressure. Recoil was heavy. Don't even know if this stabilizes.


    If even needed, I would limit useage of the 180, 185, and 200gr loads in J & K Frame guns


    Also ran two Buff Bore 180s thru 16" Rossi M92 carbine ……………. 1,894 fps avg ( 6 fps ES) -- two rounds

    Larger sample would change results but probably not a great deal.

    Paul
     
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    Interesting pair for a gel test. It isn't comparable but I have always wondered how the Remington .357 180gr jhp does out of my 3" GP100. I wouldn't expect 1100fps even out of the lighter bullet.
     
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