and if you notice, people generally don't take bolt action rifles on shooting sprees or robberies,
-Lopezni
Whitman? Oswald?
Wrong, I don't support Hillary, but I willing to bet many of you are Palin supporters. You know, lots of people carried pistols in the old west, wasn't a very safe time period
-Lopezni
So first try to alter the debate by insulting us,
than incorrectly paint the 19th century american west as the cruel brutal place seen in hollywood, and the video games you, yourself vilify. Unless you mean an era that was ripe with opertunity, economic growth and when people were mostly curteous and law abiding and above all self reliant. If that is what you mean when you talk of "The Wild West" than yes I would love to live in a state that is like "The Wild West", were I could walk down the street without fear of being mugged (which didnt happen back then), trust my neighbors, and the government is small, than dang it lets go back to that.
Yes there was crime and murder in "The Wild West" but it was less prevelant than today, what YOU know of "The Wild West" is TV, movies and myth, please sir, educate yourself.
Texas sold Maj. Hasan, a pistol that has a 20rd capacity, is known to have the capability to penetrate body armor, which he used to kill innocent people.
-Lopezni
Sorry I have nothing to add but this:
Because I guaranty you if one or two people IN that room at the time had weapons on them that sorry POS would have gotten greased after the first couple shots.
-rattletrap1970
Thanks for saying that rattletrap.
I don't think the judge would have accepted an Islamic Cleric as a reference. Florida gave Plaxico Burris a permit and he came to NY and shot himself with his pistol.
-Lopezni
That is just a d*** racist comment sir, and I think you should post an apology
. Almost all muslims are good people, and such a comment has no place on a forum such as this or in a civil debate. Educate yourself sir.
I don't want every random idiot who wants a handgun to be able to carry one
-Lopezni
WHO ARE YOU :banghead: to make such a determination? What gives YOU the right? Yes I advocate safe responsible firearms ownership but this country is founded so that we may all enjoy "the persuit of happiness." and yes some people are not so bright, but they have the right to work hard, earn money and use it to legally obtain anything they want. THAT is the country in which we live. Educate yourself sir.
I'm serious. You are capable of knowing things you haven't experienced. Do you deny that innocent people defend themselves with handguns every single day? I know you've never witnessed it, but you do know that it happens, right
-waterhouse
Thank you waterhouse, very eloquent and well thought out.
I am sorry but you need to be called out on these things, Lopezni. You are basing your argument on nonesense, and I for one do not appreciate it. Yes I know I am a zealot. I am passionate about this subject, and when these arguments come up I often think of what the otherside thinks of us. In many ways we are like them, we will never change our mind on this subject, and there is nothing wrong with that. What this forum, and this country needs is mutual understanding that each persons opinion is there own to be had, and both sides should be able to sit down and CIVILY and INTELLIGENTLY discuss the subject. I would say alomst all of us are PRO-Gun zealots and it is wrong to just say "why bother", and labelling the otherside as ignorant and wrong. Yes that IS in many cases the fact, but it is worth the time to make the argument, and to have a civil discussion, but just remember that is what THEY think of US.